ladyinred, Interesting info. Might try it next. A few more of those spine-chilling war films: Killing Fields Casualties of war The Red Thin Line PS: Black Hawk is a beast but not as massive as those slick Apaches.. Compared to the latter, it's a very 'little bird' indeed. I had better not go on bragging about the intricacies of war doctrine involved in what was clearly a complex operation.