Okay, I heard it for final and no more bullshits. I don't have any fued with newars and many of them are my best of friends. But one thing I don't understand that they keep calling themselves the inhabitat of ktm valley and as if they are separate of brahmans and chhetries. (This proves to some extent that why malla period is known as the dark period in the history of nepal.) There is no documentation of anything in this period. Or may be a group of people are playing politics. Newars, all they know about themselves is that they are the inhabitats of ktm valley. But the fact is, more than half of present newars came from India much later than the early malla period. Even malla is a sanskrit term that tells where they are rooted. Lichchhavis came from Vaisali in India, who were later degraded to Pode, by mallas. In malabar hills in India, some brahmans intermingled with the native tribes and started eating buffaloes but still kept their status. I am still searching for the source, coz I know I read it somewhere, no sooner I find it I will come up with it here. Those brahmans said to have entered ktm valley, probably, for they were not excepted as pure ones in India, or I don't know, may be in order to maintain their so called superiority, they started new customs and rituals that pretty much shaped up the present day newar culture. There is a community in India known as kayastha, which is between brahman and chhetri, they have surnames like pradhan, kayastha etc. which is also found in newar community. apart from that, bajracharya, shrestha, karmacharya, rajbhandari, all are sanskrit originated surnames, which also proves their link to india. Only bhaktapure newars have surnames that sounds pure newari, like nyhachho, bijukchhe, etc. And all those kins of Malla kings after their defeat from PN shah, said to have changed their surname to shrestha because of fear, in order to disguise themselves and prevent from getting exterminated. That's why shresthas are well established in ktm valley than other newars. Pradhans and amatyas are do gooders in Lalitpur for they were the ministers of newar regime. Brahmans called them Vaishyas and newars got angry and said that they imposed cast systems on them but look what you did to lichchavis, and look what their status is now. You should be ashamed of yourselves before calling brahmans the innovator of caste system in ktm valley. Any newars here who can enlighten me more?