i guess i did not make it clear that this thread was infact regarding those who blatantly challenged me that nepali language origin doesnot go back to india (indian subcontinent if you prefer). the Shahs came from northern gujrat and or southern punjab, if you know gujrati it sounds so similar to nepali the way the grammar is organized. not only that our national dress also is similar to rajasthani and gujrati custumes. my objection was towards those who do not want to accept this facts. sure we do have our own unique identity (in general sense) but to become a real nepali you have to hate india or indian (yes! somepeople here believe that) in other words dhoti, please give me a break!!!! i avoided a lot of explaining because i thought (smart) people know most of this facts unlike me (who is well according to some stupid) and nepali did not and could not have derived directly from sanskrit , yes the contemporary nepali is more like sanskrit than the old time nepali. if you know what i mean.