rose, I got logged out of this thread rather rudely - grrrrr - yesterday. Had to rush off without having said cheerio. My apologies. I am on my two-day break today and tom. So, Fri will be the latest before you can re-bash me with your mystery baton! Hey, your baton is now no longer a mysterious one hai, in case you didn't know. The ruck-sack is all rough and ready, waited to be couriered to ................ . I know, someone is going to land in it with 'namitho' thud! Will see you on Fri. Ps: you've got lakes after lakes eh.. all around you. Like the Lake District up in Cumbria, England. Must be such a pretty place to be in. I'm planning on going on a sky trip to Norway this winter - might make a quick detour to ---------- so I can 'pop in'. You'll never know. Someone has been warned!