Nepe, Let me get this straight. You are suggesting that I have to apologize to OK for merely saying "Maybe Manju will forgive you after all"? In other words, you want me to apologize to OK for making a passing reference to a FICTIONAL character from another thread . . . because by doing so, I showed, मूर्खतापूर्ण असम्मानर शुन्य सम्वेदनशिलता. Strong words, Nepe. Strong words. And you are playing well to your gallery. ****** How about this alternative explantion? A: OK shares your political ideology. B: And you'd go to any length to defend those who share your political ideology REGARDLESS of how wrong they are about many other things. C: There is no chance for you to want to have OK to apologize to me for making sweeping and false generalisations about me (see various threads), would you? Having OK do that would take way the bite from your fire-breathing tactics, wouldn't it? D: So you fall back on me, asking me to apologize instead for a reason even you must realise is ridiculous. **** Finally, my attitude is this: OK deserves to be treated as an EQUAL in this forum, where his ideas -- like anyone else's ideas and writings -- can be challenged, praised, attacked, revised and referenced by anyone else anytime. OK, like anyone else, is NOT to be worshipped and given uncritical 'wah-wah'. Doing so would be a disservice to him as a fellow Sajhaite. oohi ashu