Posted by: DC_Girl July 17, 2005
Bichara Shiva Shrestha...
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IF, ghumdai firdai rumjhatar bhane jastai, here you spit the venom again: "1. Chakra Bastola and company were plane hijackers. 2. DB Lama, who was elected unopposed from Rasuwa as a NC candidate was thrown in Jail by the Panchayat govt. in curroptin charges. " your justification once and again is- oh, KG and his people are corrupt? look how corrupt your democratic leaders were. yes, leaders were corrupt, i agree. but we needed a better replacement, right? and that is what most royalists stand on- democratic leaders were of no use, so lets give KG a chance. and by force or without, KG is taking his chance. lo and behold, what are we getting? Tulsi Giri and his likes with branded immoralism- worse than what Machiavelli would have envisaged or committed. well i said IF and Ashu might not answer this exactly for reasons above. we can argue for ever and get into loops, but give me one more reason why you think KG should rule- besides the hackneyed, 'lets give him a chance'. if you can, i will definitely second you. justifying how bad the democratic government was isnt the solution. Kg is taking the chance by the way, whether or not we shut up. if KG were coming up with better options and had shown some 'signs' of progress, on anything, lets talk about the conflict, or economic issues, or anything- for these 2/3 yrs, people would have calmed down a lil may be. instead, we, the people are cornered away by physical and intellectual mutilations, and are appointed (not our pick) people to lead us who are no less corrupt than the political leaders. so where is the solution? where are we going with this? and what do you mean the political parties didnt let them work, Anuradha koirala and the likes..i don't know when and how political parties rallied against these ppl demanding their resignations. enlighten me here. "and if KG trusts his own people who he thinks worship him like omnipotent god, let him come out of his lil cocoon and face the damn election! then may be we can think of an alternative to democracy!!" tattiye pani, selayera bhane pani, this is a very fair process of letting someone rule over us, or rule for us, whatever. here KG is not asked to quit, he has a chance to win if HIS people trust him. and KG will not have angry people like me dishing his deeds, he can execute his plan for 'peace and development' if he gets there. sorry for mixing up Ashu in here, may be i did go a little overboard, but the jist of your justifications for KG's rule is somewhat similar. and Ashu, i don't see your point in explaining IF's affiliations and his nack for politics. may be you're directing this to someone else, because i don't have anything to do with where he worked and how old he is. if he brings one strong argument, with regard to this issue, i will take it, even if he were under 18. and no, democrats don't brew up ideas in DC parks..like you and IF, we have also studied, have worked, and have a grasp of contemporary issues on Nepal and elsewhere. about whether or not IF is simple minded or close minded, i don't have much to say, but everybody has his/her own biases on certain issues, and IF is no exception. well, of course, we learn more when we are surrounded with different perspectives, that is why i am here to hear a concrete argument (and not get into mundane discussions on topics like Shiva shrestha le falano ko khutta kina dhogyo- dhogyo ta dhogyo, you can't undo it now, and it is HIS personal choice- i disagree with ppl who make a fuss out of this, be it democrats). my emphasis here is, if you espouse KG's government so much, why aren't you doing anything to stop him from appointing people like TG? or are you happy with it? or you think the likes of Bhim Gauchan can do something (ya, receive his monthly salary) to get us out of this quagmire? hah! see the irony? because you can't do anything about it. Ashu, you keep telling people in this forum its easy to sit our ass here and discuss- if i'm not mistaken, we're all sitting our asses here and talking, including IF. unless you've gone out and made significant changes, we're all JUST talking. so from now on, stop accusing people of where they live and how detached they are from political life in Nepal-Ashu, you do live in Nepal, but you fall into the 'elite' group which is quite detached from the everyday socio-economic problems of hte majority poor class in rural Nepal, so all you are doing is, like other posters here, sitting here and TALKING.
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