bath...., its like any convention. I HOPE. Say if you wrote a paper and sent it for publication in an IEEE. you got selected and You get invited to present it. That is because the "contemporary panel of the board" thought that the paper is worth something right? I am sure same in this regard. Does it go beyond the presentation? Then it is the responsibility of the presentor and participants to take it beyond. It all depends how truly is one dedicated to the particular Issue. At least people presenting should be appreciated for their work because they are putting forward an idea. JUST BECAUSE IT DOES NOT GO FORWARD MEANS ITS ANA's FAULT? NOPE ITS YOUR/MINE/ALL INDIVIDUAL'S FAULT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING. ANA is doing its job by presenting an idea. Its you/me/individual who have to carry it beyond ANA.. ONCE AGAIN ITS MY THOUGHT>> BUT WHAT DO I KNOW??? I HAVE BEEN TOLD OF BEING A PSYCO, WEIRDO, AMONG MANY OTHER ADJ. SO ......