Ax, Sorry, didn't read ur question early enough. Was so blown out by JETS loss that I didn't even wanna watch any sports channel for a while. Besideds Knicks are in a downhill as well (sorry, this is a football thread, but didja heard that Lenny Quit? he has never been fired in his career). Anyway, you already might know now what NY Newspapers are talking about Herm. Well more blame was bestowed upon Paul Hacket's offense and rightfully so. Hackett, I heard after resigining from the JETS might goto join Chucky's team (Bucks). There was this guy on ebay selling Doug Brien (whole Brien) and was giving Hacket along with the deal, so you know what the feeling is around here. I just had to endure harsh words from my Steelers, Pats and Eagle friends. Media hasn't been that harsh on Herm though. Herm doesn't draw as much accolades as Parcell and the team used to draw but they are going easy on Herm, simply because JETS were good as a team but sucked on Offense by the end of the season. If Jest fail to goto Playoff or go out 1st round, I can see Herm Edward leaving this team. Say, Pennington fit right into Jets west coast offense (or lack there of), don't know how he will fit next.