sense i think i got ur answer....i think only they can understand themselves...or can they?i cant even understand meself..so i dunno hehe...someone tell me too :o) but it does feel good when time to time we think(wrongly) that we do understand them hoina?hehe... well dun give up ..once someone does understand them..pls share to us..how..where..when u did it ?;oP danny..