wow, yatree, that's awesome! thank you! i had no idea about the whole insert option. that's the answer i needed yaar! i found "nga" and some other ones i had trouble figuring out before too. as for "oo", i got the ones that you mentioned and i knew "jha" also. i was actually looking for the "oo" and "u" that go underneath the letters. i can't figure those out. but thanks again for your help! dp, that's not what i had in mind, but not a bad idea....friday afternoon bhayo ni...