HELLOTestdirector, I understand your feeling. You, now, should know one thing, we should argue as much as we could; but, remember, we are friends. Eventually, we have to create the good UNDERSTANDING among us, please don't forget we are just friends, there is no reason you lose and I win or you win and I lose by exploring the ideas as we like. This is SAJHA thread, Sabaiko SAJHA< fortunately, we have met a SAN DAI, who's great contribution gives us the chance to make the blast here........ Please, do not take anything seriously, I believe this topic is not about what will winner or misfortune (I mean loser) people feel or say? And, I don't put their generosities down as I believe. You know some of them are buds, and rest of them are blooms spread the perfume, and themselves consequently be flowers and produce seeds for new generation, they will dry when time come, and one day they will vanish from your sight. You don't have to worry so much that how blooms feel after reading this thread. The winner and the loser could see this thread, and communicate as they like. Can I say that I don't like their dance, don't I? And, It is not all about that we talking, It is about the judgment that is not fair. There is not necessary your comprehensive ideas concerning of judges protection. After reading your message, it comes to conclusion that you feel bad or I have type some word that could deceive your feeling; in fact, you said "can I be stupid, no problem." My thought was totally different from you have realized. How about, if I present you the "GREAT ," will you accept it? Finally, thank you very much for your encouragement to our organizations to do more ethnic events.