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 Tape out-Krishna Bahadur Mahara ko asliyat..

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Posted on 09-03-10 8:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Malai Mahara ko चेहेरा herna man lagyoo after listening this.. 
Dealing with chinese for maoist to get votes..

To listen go here
here is the link


 
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I do not trust Maoist and their ideology neither do I trust cast or nationality based republic system for Nepal. Geographically based republic states may be best for Nepal in my opinion.
I have following to say in present case.

1. It is very difficult for me to believe that Chinese will use such unsecured telephone line for such confidential conversation. I have used 128 bit secured telephone/fax for business purpose and these security devices are easily available in the market. I am not an expert on telephone encryption but please visit  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard for further information. Here, Chinese prestiege is involved (forget about Nepal) that's why I have a doubt about it.

2. Based on voice we cant tell whether the person is Chinese or someone else. For one moment let us suppose the guy is Chinese even then we cant say he is talking on behalf of Chinese govt. (In the conversation the recorder asumes the person is Chinese and he is acting on behalf of a friend who looks after the interest of China, that is just assumption.Use of Chengdu and Hong Kong gives the impression of Chinese involvement, hey Lhasa could have been easier place for both of them  than Hong Kong.

3. Did Mahara visited Hong Kong after the conversation? I don't think so

4. If both of them can talk this sort of confidential talk over the telephone why it is necessary to go to Hong Kong to see the friend of Chinese guy? Are we thinking that Mahara will bring 50 karor in a suitcase from Hong Kong or what ??

5. Another funny thing is that  so called Chinese guy on one hand is very sensitive about the visit of his friend and involvement of Chinese govt, on the other he don't hesitate to talk everything about dirty intend over the non secured telephone, sounds more like a joke. People who do this type of things are more serious about the use of open telephone line.

6. On follow up conversation it looks Maoist agreed to take money and Chinese(?) agreed to provide then why Mahara needed to meet him in Hong Kong. Why after the deal is agreed upon?

7. In the end of the interview Mahara seems to accepts the conversation had indeed happened but this may be because  of the guided projection in our brain.


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@_______ can you please clarify what you mean by " In the end of the interview Mahara seems to  accepts the conversation had indeed happened but this may be because  of  the guided projection in our brain"? What caused you to doubt that Mr. Mahara didn't accept that the conversation had indeed happened? As far as I could tell, Mr Mahara admitted to it. I don't see how anyone could be confused about that. 
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OK, my points are based on Nepal news interview. I haven't watched other interviews if there are any.In the end of the interview Mahara says my cellphone is from Nepal Telecom and it has no recording facilities. It implies if not Nepal telephone someone else must have recorded it, This implies that conversation indeed took place, secondly he also says almost in the middle of the interview that why they didn't published at the time it did happened(if it had happened) this also indirectly implies that Mahara had such conversation.
Firstly, we forget that we are grabbing only those part which suits the purpose, we forget that in the beginning he denied it.

Secondly we are trying to be judge here.In US before detaining someone police recite "whatever you say here can be used against you and you have right to use lawyer and right to remain silence". In general people say what they think is self understood but different people dig out different meaning of it that is why while saying soemthing to police arrested people  seek the help of a lawyer.
Although Mahara can be a intelligent person for some people for me he is just a ideologically confused person so taking out whatever suits my purpose can be dangerous.While judging or analysing what he says  I dont want to be biased I will try to see both sides of the coin.

Lastly  point is we Nepali  get carried away very easily, la telephone record garyo bhanera post garna saath hamiley turunta biswas garna khojchhau we don't carefully analyse it.and whatever we see after that we automatically try to relate to the original claim.
I hope i made myself clear
and by the way that Mahara guy is not related to me and any of my family in our recorded history.
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@_____ Thanks for clarifying that. I was just curious to know what your thought process was. I am sure that you aren't supporting anyone, you are just trying to analyze the situation without being biased.

 
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The interview of Mahara in Nepalnews is kind of confession. Because

1. He initially says that in these people can add different speech of him to make a whole conversation like the one we hear. It means he admits that the voice was his. It is just that he is saying even though what we hear is his voice, they were synthesized from different sources.

The other two confessional statement (who is recording his voices and that why his statements were not published when they took) were two other confessions.

I don't like Indians, but the conversation in deed took place.

Mahara and company are stupid, and they are willing to sell the country to any A, B, and C. They are stupid or superconfident, and that is why they are getting trapped. Prachanda's shaktikhor video showed how superconfident he was in speaking those words...jerk.

 
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DAMN

This guy is really really stupid.

Around 3:38
He asked why they (group ) leaked this conversation at this moment ? why they did not published exactly after the conversation was done. ( I guess conversation was happened during 3rd or 4th round of election.)

Around 8:40
He clearly admits that the conversation was happened from his phone. As the tapping technology is not installed in Nepal Telecom so he wants to know who (person or agency) is behind that phone tapping or recording.

As he was concerned about tapping and try to find that is it installed in NTC or not ?

But as rid says












If Prachande chor ko asliyat ko video cannot change the
mind of stupid nepalese majority, what do you expect an audio tape is
going to do? nothing!"

Nothing will change in our country.



 
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DAMN

This guy is really really stupid.

Around 3:38
He asked why they (group ) leaked this conversation at this moment ? why they did not published exactly after the conversation was done. ( I guess conversation was happened during 3rd or 4th round of election.)

Around 8:40
He clearly admits that the conversation was happened from his phone. As the tapping technology is not installed in Nepal Telecom so he wants to know who (person or agency) is behind that phone tapping or recording.

As he was concerned about tapping and try to find that is it installed in NTC or not ?

But as rid says

If Prachande chor ko asliyat ko video cannot change the mind of stupid nepalese majority, what do you expect an audio tape is going to do? nothing!"

Nothing will change in our country.


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I will be GAY if I get to [Disallowed String for - bad word] Prachande and Mahara
 
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These politicians; jhaat lai jati pani baal didainan janata lai, yesko ausadhi k hola?
 
sYaKuuRiolAKU_nchImb
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this mahara guy is so dumb
he said he used nepal telecom cell.

But as rid says

If Prachande chor ko asliyat ko video cannot change the mind of stupid nepalese majority, what do you expect an audio tape is going to do? nothing!"


 
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टेप कहाँबाट आयो ?









सुधीर शर्मा


चिनियाँ राजदूतले नेपाली मिडियाका प्रमुख सम्पादकहरूसँग बेलाबखत
बालुवाटारको एक घरमा अनौपचारिक अन्तक्रिर्या गर्ने गर्छन् । शुक्रबार साँझ
पनि करिब एक दर्जन सम्पादकहरूसँग उनी खुलेर कुराकानी गर्दैथिए, त्यहीं
अर्को मित्रराष्ट्रका एक वरिष्ठ कूटनीतिज्ञको फोन आयो । उनको भनाइ थियो-
एउटा टेलिफोन टेप छ, छाप्न सक्नु हुन्छ ?


के हो भनी सोध्दा सहकर्मी सम्पादक अखिलेश उपाध्यायलाई उनले यतिमात्र भने- सुनेपछि थाहा पाइहाल्छौ ।


कान्तिपुर, काठमान्डु पोस्ट र कान्तिपुर टेलिभिजनका हामी तीनैजना सम्पादक संयोगले त्यहाँ सँगै थियौं ।


सूचना अरू स्रोतबाट आउन थाले । माओवादी नेता कृष्णबहादुर महराले चिनियाँ
भनिएका कसैसँग ५० करोड रुपैयाँ मागेको टेलिफोन टेप रहेछ । तर ती 'चिनियाँ'
को हुन् ? कुन-कुन फोन नम्बरमा कुराकानी भएको हो ? त्यो रेकर्ड कसरी भयो ?
प्रस्ट थिएन । सोध्नेको चासो यतिमात्र थियो- आजै छाप्न सकिन्छ कि सकिन्न ?


एउटा छिमेकीलाई जोडेर अर्कोबाट आएको अपुष्ट सूचनालाई कसरी पत्याइहाल्ने ?
हामीले टेप सुनेर, बुझेर भरपर्दो लागेमात्र छाप्न सक्ने निधो गर्‍यौं । तर
प्रस्तावक यो 'झन्झट' बेहोर्ने पक्षमा थिएनन्, उनी जसरी पनि तत्कालै
त्यसलाई सार्वजनिक गर्न चाहन्थे । त्यसैले विकल्पतिर लागे ।


चिनियाँ राजदूतकै रात्रिभोजमा रहेका अन्य केही सम्पादकहरूको पनि फोन बज्यो
। केही क्षणपछि त्यो समाचार एउटा टेलिभिजनमा देखियो । अनि दुइटा प्रकाशन
गृहले शनिबार त्यसलाई मुखपृष्ठमा प्राथमिकता दिए ।


काठमाडांैस्थित एक दूतावासबाट वितरित त्यो समाचार सत्य हुन पनि सक्छ, नहुन
पनि । हामी सञ्चारकर्मीले स्वतन्त्र खोजबिन नगरी त्यसलाई सार्वजनिक
गरिहालेको र चौतर्फी प्रतिक्रियासमेत आइसकेकाले सत्यतथ्य पहिल्याउनु अब
सायद निकै जटिल हुनेछ ।


प्रधानमन्त्री निर्वाचनमा फोहोरी खेल चलिरहेका बेला माओवादी आर्थिक
लेनदेनमा लागेको सूचना आफैंमा नौलो होइन । माओवादीले आफूलाई पाँच करोडको
प्रस्ताव राखेको माले महासचिव सीपी मैनालीले भर्खरै खुलासा गरेका छन् र
त्यससम्बन्धी विश्वासिलो खण्डनसमेत आएको छैन । यस्तो पृष्ठभूमिमा
माओवादीसँग जोडिएर आएको पैसाको चलखेलसम्बन्धी खबरलाई मिडियाले पत्याउनु
अस्वाभाविक होइन ।


तर एउटा विदेशी दूतावासले 'चिनियाँ' सँगको कुराकानी भन्दै चुहाएको सूचनाका
आधारमा सिंगो चीनलाई जोडेर प्रस्तुत गर्नु कत्तिको परिपक्वता हो ? भोलि
अर्को विदेशीले कुनै भारतीयलाई जोडेर टेप दियो भने हौसिएर पूरै भारतलाई
तानेर लेख्ने ? संवेदनशील तर अपुष्ट सूचनालाई छानबिनबिनै हामीले सार्वजनिक
गर्न थाल्यौं भने तथ्य खोज्ने हाम्रो दायित्व के हुन्छ ? एउटा विदेशीले
अर्कोलाई उत्तेजित पार्न खोज्ने र हामी त्यसको सहज माध्यम बनिदिने हो भने
नेपाल-भारतको जटिल भूराजनीतिले 'दुई ढुंगे तरुल' लाई कहाँ पुर्‍याउला ? टेप
प्रकरण यी सबै जिज्ञासाका निम्ति एउटा पाठ हो ।
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मेरै स्वर पनि हुन
सक्छ : महरा



काठमाडौं, भदौ २१ (नागरिक)- एकीकृत माओवादी स्थायी
कमिटी सदस्य कृष्णबहादुर महराले परिचय नखुलेका 'चिनियाँ'सँग भएको भनिएको टेलिफोन
संवाद आफ्नै हुन पनि सक्ने बताएका छन्। 'मेरै स्वर हुन पनि सक्छ,' माओवादी निकट
जनदिशा साप्ताहिकलाई आइतबार दिएको अन्तर्वार्तामा त्यो तपाईंको स्वर होइन भनेर कसरी
विश्वास गर्ने भन्ने प्रश्नमा उनले भनेका छन्, 'आजकलको विज्ञान र प्रविधिको जमानामा
मैले प्रसंगवश कतै बोलेका कुरा जोडेर यो वाक्यांशहरूको टेप खडा गर्न कुनै कठिनाइ
छैन।'


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'मेरै
स्वर हुन पनि सक्छ,' माओवादी निकट जनदिशा साप्ताहिकलाई आइतबार दिएको अन्तर्वार्तामा
त्यो तपाईंको स्वर होइन भनेर कसरी विश्वास गर्ने भन्ने प्रश्नमा उनले भनेका छन्,
'आजकलको विज्ञान र प्रविधिको जमानामा मैले प्रसंगवश कतै बोलेका कुरा जोडेर यो
वाक्यांशहरूको टेप खडा गर्न कुनै कठिनाइ छैन।'

उनले आजको विज्ञान र प्रविधिको जमानामा कृत्रिम भिडियो, अडियो र तस्विर खडा गर्न
कुनै कठिनाइ नभएको उल्लेख गर्दै यसअघि आएका शक्तिखोरलगायत अडियो, भिडियो टेपका
बारेमा नाम नलिई यसैगरी तयार गरिएको दाबी गरेका छन्। 'यस्ता भिडियो प्रकरण, टेप
प्रकरण हाम्रो पार्टी र हाम्रो पार्टीका नेताहरूलाई एकपछि अर्को जोड्दै यसो गर्दै
आएका छन्,' उनले भने।


उनले टेप प्रकरण आफ्नो व्यक्तिगत सवाल नभएको बताउँदै भनेका छन्, 'यो मेरो
व्यक्तिगत मामिला नभएर समग्र पार्टी र आन्दोलनको विषय हो।'


 
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'आजकलको विज्ञान र प्रविधिको जमानामा
मैले प्रसंगवश कतै बोलेका कुरा जोडेर यो वाक्यांशहरूको टेप खडा गर्न कुनै कठिनाइ
छैन।'

"From Frying Pan into the Fire"
 It takes years to replicate the conversation gluing your every single word mo'fo.
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होईन साझा का माओवादी भनउद हरु कता गएचन सुन्न मन लाग्यो यो बारेमा के भन्द रैचन । खुअब फुर्ती लगै हिद्थिए प्रचन्द यो बाबुरम त्यो भनेर । कसै कसै ले त यहाँ बाबुरम लाई प्रधानमन्त्री को सिफा रिस खुबै जोर तोर सँग गरेको देखेको थिए कता गए खोइ आतन्क्बदी हरु को तरिफ गरेर गर्ब गर्ने हरु
 
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Anyone in the related field know if it is really possible as yet to simulate the voice so well using computer technology?

In Nepal, anything like this happens the leaders always seem to make excuses saying "These days you can do any things like that easily with computers." Really?

 
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Koile yo [Disallowed String for - use not allowed]lai goli hane hunthiyo ni.

 
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HowardRoark bro,

I have seen few ads on the net relating to such technology. I think that is the software you use. I have no idea how genuine or legit the software is. Or how possible it is.
 
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Is the Government investigating the issue at all?
 



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