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 Karna Shakya - Talk Program

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Posted on 08-07-09 7:40 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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A talk program (chal phal ) is being organized with Author (Soch, Khoj, Socha, Khoja ra Gara) and visionary, Karna Shakya, 


on  14 August Friday


At 

163 Packard Avenue

Barnum Hall 008 

Tufts University  Medford 


at 7 PM.



All are invited to listen to him. 

If you have any questions to him - I can ask him on your behalf.

For More details

write to:

mabi.singh@gmail.com
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Posted on 08-07-09 12:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well  said grgDai. once a baffoon always a baffoon, kee garne?
 
Posted on 08-07-09 12:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Very well said grg..... these bulshitter people think that they are smart!!!!!
 
Posted on 08-07-09 1:44 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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bathroomcoffee

I deleted your posts, they were disgusting. Sorry bro !

Mabi

 
Posted on 08-07-09 1:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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go on grg,


He will teach you how to encroach innocent people's land to build a holiday resort.


Portray yourself as a consevationist . No Consevation = No Tourists means No Business for Mr. Sakya.


I am anonymous because I don't have to show my face to assholes like you to get credit for anything. Whereas he has to put on a public face to empower his business reach every where he goes. Tara yestoo kura yestaaa gadha haru justaaaa GrgDai ley ke sochna sakthyo. Why don't you just be a Sheep and follow the herd then


 
Posted on 08-07-09 2:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shirish No problem bro,


Just because I don't do that "Prabhu ko gun gau" does not mean what I am saying is wrong. Everyone should be held accoutable for what they do. And that means Mr Sakya too. Isn't that what freedom and democracy is ? Otherwise we should put the Murderous Maoist in the same pedestal then. There sure are a lot of people in Nepal who think they(the Maoist) did nothing wrong.


 
Posted on 08-07-09 2:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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mr shakya has the audacity to put a public face and say what he thinks so the public can make their own decision to go see his talk program.Unlike anonymous coffee here who hides behind his pseudonym. Assholes like you don't have the guts to show your true identity, and you hide behind that faceless mask to be indecent, rude and intolerant to others because you can't face reality. At least come up with some evidence before saying crap about a known person like he encroached land. huh

 
Posted on 08-07-09 2:38 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Listen to this MORON cald GRGdai...... ha ha ha ha    Before you go on pointing fingers....


And you are not hiding under ur psuedo name and throwing mud at tme ? ha ha ha IDIOT ?


 
Posted on 08-07-09 2:38 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bathroom coffee

I do not know Mr Shakya. I just happened to read his books. So I am gun gaoing Prabhu. I am doing my best to make a venue so that people can come and share some ideas. Why don't you come and ask all these questions to him, if you have GUTS ? 

The book Soch is going for the sixteenth edition and others sold like hot cakes. That does indicate that there is something in his works. 

I do admit that there might be some vested interest in his conservation works, but his interests are beneficial to  Nepal. He does make profit out of his six hotels he and his family owns - that is his business but have you ever considered how many jobs that has created? How many families have been fed ? 

Do you mean to say, nobody should ever do business ??? Bro, you are in States and you know how economy runs !! Thamel is Thamel because of Kathmandu Guest House ! Can you deny that ?

You can say what ever you want, but just don't use foul language.  


 
Posted on 08-07-09 3:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shirish,


You are free to do whatever you want to bro. As far as coming to see him, ummm... I have no interest. Yeah I do have a problem with him being labeled as a consevationist because He is NO Green Peace or the Sierra club(he is just looking out for himself and his business empire).  His hotels are generating jobs and fededing people and I am anything about that either.


Thamel became Thamel because of rampant Drug problem in Freak Street not because KGH.


Have fun at the talk. :-)


P.S. Since you already volunteered why don't you ask the questions for me.


 
Posted on 08-07-09 3:39 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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the douchebag just doesn't get it. I'm not throwing mud at a 'known' person using an anonymous nick like you  are doing. Are you mentally retarded?

If you want shirish to ask a question, why don't you write out what the question is instead of throwing retarded statements.

 
Posted on 08-07-09 4:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey BathroomCoffee Dude, Why are you being so negative? Its ok if you don't wanna attend it but let people listen to him and analyze him what he say. Peace bro. 

 
Posted on 08-07-09 5:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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my friend emailed me about this guy's book called 'Socha and Gara' but i haven't done that yet.


so can anyone tell me why such a big issue for a book written by a shrewed businessman? has anybody read it? pls shed some light.


my question for mr.Shakya - Ecotourism is deeply rooted in Nepal for more than three decades and it is one of the major contributor to our economy. However, we haven't seen any improvement in the development of Nepal nor it has helped to uplift the livelihood of locals that lives in the vicinity of national parks and reserves. For example - the 7 km strip of road that connects Chitwan National Park to the highway still wears the looks from 20 years ago. nothing has changed its face. it falls victim to annual monsoon flood and nobody does anything. But it is true that some made fortune from tourism business like you and now you publish a book that has suddenly made you a celebrity?? Remember, I haven't read your book yet and as a veteran in the tourism industry - you should know these questions are legit.


One last question - do you know anything about green leaking and if you do know, how can we prevent it and pls do not give me the age old answer - our system is weak. we all know know that but I wanna know your answer. hope the questions are not too long.


SR


 


 
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I remember my first meeting with
Mr. Shakya. It was in a European city and we were attending a program.They were
there for three days. At that time I knew him by name as owner of
Kathmandu guest only. We happen to sit together in a function; I introduced
myself (by name only). He replied I am Karna Shakya.

I thought ok this is the owner of the Kathmandu guest house. They were staying in one of the expensive hotel in the sea beach. My condo was about five min walk from there. I invited him for dinner. He looked at me as if saying “hey kid do you know who am I? Haven’t I told you that I am staying in the most expensive hotel?

I don’t want to visit ordinary ppls home.”  But answered “kaha dinner garney fursat hunu, ekchin fursat chaina malai”. I didn’t tell him in which company and at what
capacity I was working (I don’t like boasting) just said ok, “teso vaye aaru
kunai deen:”

It is very rude not to accept when someone from your country invites you for dinner with some lame excuse. In my opinion the way he said no to my invitation was very rude. He at least, could have shown some politeness by saying “Bhai hami haru dherai byasta chhau mildaina hola dinner ko lagi tara dhanyabad hai invite gareko ma” or something similar like that.
May be the guy wanted to spend the night in the bar of the Hotel. I was very young compared to him, may be he was thinking “khaa yo khatey ko invitation ma gai rahaney” hotel ma masti garna chhodera or “yo student hola ma sanga kehi help magne hola yo khatey le, yesh lai jasari vaye pani panchaunu parcha”

He didn’t bother to ask “tapai yaha ke garnu/gardai  hunuhuncha” By not
asking what I am doing in Europe he missed the opportunity to know a Nepali guy who has achieved remarkably at young age and I came to know his real face.

Yeah, in later days he may have changed because of the age/disease or may be because of the family tragedy etc. I haven’t read his books and have no desire to do so.

Personally for me he is like other Nepali political leaders who do one thing and say another.




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Posted on 08-07-09 9:24 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"___________"

Your story is a stark reminder  of the perils of social snobbery. I guess you never know when that snobbery - perceived or real -  may come back to bite you. However,  I suppose no one is perfect.  Mr Shakya I am sure has his flaws.  As do you and I and all the numerous speakers before him who have spoken at Nepali functions in Boston.  I can, however,  vouch that he is a man with interesting ideas and opinions - not sure if you got to see that part of him in your interactions with him.

To the larger point in the thread, I feel attending  a talk program of this nature - with two-way conversations -  doesn't mean you have to like the speaker or agree with him. Showing up should not be construed as an endorsement IMO. Listening to someone, asking questions of them and engaging in meaningful discourse is a great way to take in new ideas and gain new perspective. More so if you disagree with the speaker.  I found Prachanda's and Baburam's   talk programs  terrific - precisely because I disagreed with them about most things


Shirish and Bathroom Coffee - 

Hi there - it's been a long time :) Hope you guys are well.

 
Posted on 08-08-09 11:38 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I've read portions of 'Soch' and found them generally positive, sometimes reminding of Randy Pausch's last lecture. I'd overlook Mr Shakya's personal background and flaws and focus on his ideas if I could attend the program. Anyway, hope that Shirish will post a summary of the interaction in sajha for those of us who won't be able to attend.


 


 
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Bathmroom coffee,

You and I perhaps do not need to read such books, nor he has written anything pulled out from another planet. No doubt he is a shrewd businessman ( but that is not either crime) nor he is completely flawless person, nor I would deny he might have his vested interest -or may be he is just like " sattar chuhe khake billi nikli haj karne".

However, as you know people in nepal are so  "veda" as they alwys need one " gothalo" all the time, and most of the time that "gothalo" are our "neta", so if some "veda" are following his or some simple idea of humanity and positivity I consider that would yeild some good and help transform these "vedas" into a bit civilized and thoughful creature. I read his first book a couple of pages which though appears he is so obsessed with western superficial culture-like how to greet people, how to simle, how to thanks, where to throw trash and so on..however, nepali bhedas do need to know this basics..so someone of relatively big/sucessful name (gothalo) would need to tell them what to do or what not to coz they are 'veda'. Had samething was written by Kancha Tamang ko Taplejung, no body would give shit..this is how nepali are.  Karna Shakya being sucessful businessman has the money and source to do so so he did it. So in personal view, without going in detail  behind his hidden personal agenda ( which can be good or bad who knows?) I think if his one book would change at least 10 veda of nepal, I consider that "at least a job done".



 
Posted on 08-08-09 7:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I had read his book "soch" and it's quite inspiring. He had his roots as a park official despite him being from a rich family etc. and his family opposing his measly salary and job, he did it for many years. So his eco tourism is not a sham.
There's some ppl here who are just into back stabbing and one of the reasons for the regressive society we have today.
All that bs aside, I would totally go to his talk show if I could and meet this man.
we need more ppl like him and latter of the type who bark like dogs.



 
Posted on 08-09-09 2:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks for your input.

A correction: Soch is in 22nd edition despite available for free download.

Mabi

 
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snowfed river


few people asked similar question like yours -


The govt. of Nepal is going to make a law that 70 % of the funds will go to the local development.


For e.g. to get a permit to go to Dolpa region, the govt. charges 700$ so 70% of the tarrif will go to the development of Dolpa.


Hope this answers your question.


 


 
Posted on 08-18-09 12:16 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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thanks.


the law already exists - it was passed in 1993 but after more than a decade, still similar situation prevails. how come that 7 km strip is still abandoned??


tell u what - unless and untill there is a revolution for Top Down approach change, there will no CHANGE.


 



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