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Posted on 03-27-07 10:42 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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साझाका मित्रहरु,हामि यहाँ चिच्याएर धेरै केहि त गर्न सक्दैनौ नेपालको लागि,कमसेकम बहस,छलफल गरेर भ्रस्टाचार र कूशासनका बिरोधमा आवाज उठाउन त सक्छौ! आजको बिषय: गोबिन्द राज जोशि साँच्चै भ्रस्टाचारि हुन त?यदि हुन भने उनले गरेका भ्रस्टाचारको पर्दाफास गरौँ।जो जस सङ उन्का भ्रस्टाचारका प्रमाण छ,यहाँ व्यक्त गरौँ?यदि उनि माथि खालि आरोप लाग्या हो भन्ने सोच्नु हुन्छ भने पनि आफ्नो तर्क यहाँ राख्न्नु होला?उनि माथि कस्तो सजाय ठिक होला?
 
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Posted on 03-27-07 10:51 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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पहिलो काम भ्रष्टाचार परिभाषित हुनु पर्‍यो । आर्थिक अनियमितता, नैतीक पतन्, नितीगत भ्रष्ट्रचार के के लाई मान्ने ? दोस्रो, भ्रष्ट्रचार को पर्दाफास् गर्ने काम आफ्नै घर बाट किन न गर्ने ? आफ्ना बुवा आमाले यथेष्ट खर्चेर नै पढाएका हुन ? पहिला सोध्नु पर्‍यो, खोज्नु पर्‍यो, त्यो ठुलो रकम कहाँ बाट आएको थ्यो र हो । कर तिरेको पैसा हो कि होइन ? अनि मात्र गोबिद्न राज, खुमे लगायत भ्रष्ट हरु माथि गालीको बौछार गर्न मिल्छ । अस्तु!
 
Posted on 03-27-07 1:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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त्यसो भए राहुलजिको बिचारमा प्राय नेपालि नेताहरु माथि भ्रस्टाचारको औला ठड्याउन योग्य छैनन? गोबिन्द राज र खुमेले के गरे त्यो एउटा साधारण जनताले बोल्न नपाउने तपाइको बिचारमा। सबै नेपालि जस्का छोरा छोरिले उच्च शिक्ष्या हाँसिल गरेका छन सबैका बाबु आमा भ्रस्ट छैनन राहुलजि। तपाइले पनि त दूख गरेर उच्च शिक्ष्या हाँसिल गर्नु भा छ। तपाइ कुनै पनि रूपमा भ्रस्टाचारमा सँलग्न हुनु हुन्छ जस्तो मलाइ लाग्दैन।तपाइ जस्तै नेपालि धेरै हुन सक्छन,जस्ले पार्टिगत चस्मा खोलेर भ्रस्टाचारको बिरोध गर्न सकुन।
 
Posted on 03-27-07 2:49 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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h1b जी, फेरी तपाईं ले मेरो लेखाइ को गलत अर्थ लगाउनु भयो। मेरो भन्नु को तात्पर्य, गोबिन्दे खुमे लाई चोख्याउनु होइन। सर्बोच्चले चोख्याउंदा पनि जनताको माझ भ्रष्ट्र नै छन् र हुने छन्। तिनलाइ सामजिक बहिष्कार् गर्ने समाज को निर्माण् हुनु पर्दछ। तर मेरो भन्नु को अर्थ यो पनि छ - भ्रष्ट्रचार् समाज् को तप्का तप्कामा ब्याप्त छ। फोहर् आफ्नै आंगन् बाट् सफा गर्नु पर्दछ भन्छन्। अनि हामी यति पूर्बाग्रहि र स्वार्थी भएर कुरा गर्छौं। अझ नेतालाई गाली गर्नु पर्यो भने तीन् बित्ता उफ्रेर गाली गर्छौं। इन्जिनियर् भएर घर न बनाको, निकम्मा इन्जिनियर् भनेर घर् गाउँमा चर्चा हुन्छ। यस्लाई सामजिक् भ्रष्ट्रचार् भन्ने कि न भन्ने? मेरा अड्डा का सहकर्मीका २ ओटि छोरि मेडिकल् पढ्छिन्, १६-१६ लाख खर्चेर । तलब १० हजार छ, ३२ लाख त ३२ बर्ष को जागिर को कूल जम्मा हो । त्यसलाई के भन्नु हुन्छ? यहाँ त्यहाँ, अमेरिका युरोप मा पढ्न आउने कतिपय ले लाखौं खर्चेर इङिनियरिङ्ग, वा महिनाको हजारौं तिरेर १०+२ गरेका छन । भ्रष्ट्रचार नै गरेन रे , ब्यापार गरे रे वा मोटो रकम पाउने अनाम जागिर नै खाए रे । के तिनले राष्ट्र लाई तिर्नु पर्ने कर तिरेका छन त? कर न तिर्नु भ्रष्ट्राचार हो कि होइन? केही प्रश्नहरु राखेको मात्र मित्र । गलत अर्थ लगाइ न हाल्नुस् ।
 
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haha..these guys look like they were "immature college canteen politician" back in nepal. i always wanted to kick their ass...but you know sometimes they used to spend for our "canteen momo" " tonga and buff chilli" and aslo for some other amusement in a hope that we are gonna caste vote for them....hehehe... now guess how these guys going to reply me.....whenever i read these people..i alwyas remember those in college crying for vote..dammit... anyway...govinda raj joshi is not a good politician, and he is a currupted leader. this is what i feel but dont know for sure. dear rahulvai....i am studying /living abroad. i am all my own. the 'big money' that i paid to my university came from " sahu baa" and im paying that "sahu baa" a high interest rate every month. it sucks myaan......Rahul BHAI, if you have some "big money" came from some other sources left then please forward it to me...i would really parreciate....thanks
 
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Contour, Who said that Gobinde and KHume are good politician? They are corrupt politicians, no doubt about that. My issue is- corruption has infiltrated every corner of the society. Only very few are immuned from the infection. You may be one of them. Bravo, bro. But I am talking in general. I have been in civil service ( Government of Nepal ) for 16 years and I know the actual income of an officer.Many of them have spent millions of rupee for education of thei children. Now, is it moraly valid to shout Govinde chor, khume chor by those guys or not?
 
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It's worthless to oppose only few corrupted leaders in this almost dead country. Think of any profession, you 'll find hard time to figure out which one is the most corrupted. For eg, take polticians, lawyers, judges, Govt officers, Police, journalists ( except kantipur which makes money by publishing propoganda of Maoists. Proof- Hari Roka, Bhate (Bhoj Raj) & others). Had any one figure out how those people who run NGOs make money?To reflect the problem, I would rather say almost all ( do you agree if I say 95%) Nepalese has corruption in their genetic trait. The only difference is who got the oppertunity and who do not.
 
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Rahulvai ji,, i really dont know if it is morally valid or not...but i never shout at them. well..if somebody ask me then i would not be in dillemma saying they are corrupted. well, my father was also a government civil service, and this is why im telling you i have a "sahu baa" back in nepal. as far as i know, all my frens (almost 25 ppl) living here have a "sahu baa" back in nepal. brother it hurts if you generalised this issue.....i still remember our frustration when our scholarship was rejected by ministry of education and sons of ministers and politicians (bam dev gautam, and one more minister..i forgot the name of that pig now) were sent in place. well brother..i hope you can understand if you "were" also in the same boat.....all i wanna say is if you wanna speak out, be specific. dont put it under all hardworking sons.
 
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Yes, I agree with you Contour bro. I am not generalizing, if its seems so I beg pardon for that. I salute you and your freinds but I know a lots of sajha users,who are advocating against corrupt leaders, are themselves not of clean sources. I know that many hardworking bros frustrated by the Nepali system. I have been too suffered from that. I was top 10 among the biology students ( ISc) but could not get a medical scholarship. In fact, 37 of my claasmates got chance to study mdecine( 35 from abroad).
 
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Jai Nepal "कर तिरेको पैसा हो कि होइन ?" - कर tirdai ma hudaina! income source? "सामजिक् भ्रष्ट्रचार् भन्ने कि न भन्ने?" -Hamro problem yahi nera chha! "आर्थिक अनियमितता, नैतीक पतन्, नितीगत भ्रष्ट्रचार के के लाई मान्ने ?" - आर्थिक अनियमितता lai nai भ्रष्ट्रचार vannu parchha. नैतीक पतन vae pachhi matra आर्थिक अनियमितता garchhan, manushya le! h1b-kamnist birodhi chha, Bamdev ko palama maar ma paryo jasto chha hai! Ashok rai nai ho ki mantri h1b lai dukha dine! Jai Nepal
 
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Hey Rahulbhai!! I appreciate your effort to relate children of goverent employees(wheater corroupt or not) corrupt. Your sayin that they cannot speak againt corruption is more idealistic. I would like to congratulate for your good academic standing during your ISc. Keep it up!!
 
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Jwai Sap -you are right I am anti communist.I dislike communist not because I am personally ill treated by them but because of their lie.They lie in 99 out of 100 occasions.They speak anything for short term popularity. As you know Govinda Raj Joshi is not a communist,still i am raising this question.I am not loyal to any party,I am independent public.Nation needs more independents than party cadres.
 
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well h1b, how can you say nation needs some independents, not only party cadre? tell us honestly h1b bro...what have you done in the name of nation in the past? please be specific on your answer. let us know just a single petty thing that you have done for nepal so that your speech "nation need independent like me" will be valid among us. brother h1b, im not challenging you for the validity of your saying..but just wanted to follow you, and do the same thing for the nation as you ve done. brother....." Bolna sajilo chha...bhanna sajilo chha..tara garya chahi kehi chhaina" yasto chahi nahos. now dont answer me that you have chopped millions of momo balls in the name of our country, please dont say you ve teased lots of sxc nepali gals walking in new road in the name of our nation....i request you not to answer me as you have been in cabin restaurant hundreds of times in the name of our country....i again request you..please dont say that you have paid prostitutes to feel their breasts in the name of our nation...again i request you my dear brother not to tell us you were the one snatching the barrigates in street while protesting in the name of our nation...... BECAUSE WE ARE WAITING FOR SOME MOTIVATIVE ANSWER FROM YOU......THANKS.
 
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Contour bro,I have not done anything that motivates you to be independent.I was just trying to convey message that people once wear party's glass they are blind and they don't see anything wrong abt their leaders.And,I believe you are intelligent enough to analyze all these since you already claimed that you used to have free MOMO in Canteen sponsored by so called student leader.Now you don't say that u did not throw stone or broke bar of stree to digest those MOMO. And bro,all what you explained as MOMO and Prositute relating to work for country is your mindset and which mirrors you perhaps. No offense bro,but party cadres in Nepal has done nothing other than misusing nation's budget.
 
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h1b brother nice answer but way different than expected......after reviewing your thoughts..i feel like our nation needs you immediately....you need to go back to our country and start doing some good stuffs for her..it is gonna inspire all of us,,, who knows,,, many living here in US may change their mind and fly back. in my case, im already inspired knowing that you have always paid for your momo by yourself,, and have never done any bad stuffs to date...i hope youve never been in any of the strip bar,,even a club, or a restaurant in abroad too...and if you ve been there you ve paid by yourself all the time...okay brother, if you make us sure that you ve never been in such places in abroad too...then we will be 101% sure you need to go back to nepal...the nation needs you immediately...please let us know....
 
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Contour bro,Thanks.I understand your point.And again,even if you are not in a position to do any good,do not harm your nation-that's what I was trying to say. And bro,I have never claimed that I have not been to Club or Restaurant.I have been to those places.But yes, I have never been to strip club and do not have any interest either. Regarding going back to Nepal,I believe you have also a plan to go back as I have. Only thing bro,do not let the leader to take away rights of people to live their independent life and right to express.
 
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i got your point h1b brother....as far as your concern to the leader taking your rights away...to me, there is not a single "real leader" in nepal yet. so, i cant even imagine that the current leaders going to protect my rights, so,i have been doing that by myself as far as i can, and i hope you will do that too. i dontexpect anything from any of the leader currently leading our nation...if at some point in the future, some "heroes" will apper to whom we can trust on, then only i will leave "rights protection" job to them. by the way, i wish you all the best on your venture to change status from h1b to GC and finally citizen. i will certainly provide you a free trash bag at that time to dump your nepali citizen. i hope you will get a visa to visit nepal after being citizen of some other country, and also hope you will make lot of changes in nepal during your couple months visit. good luck!
 
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Contour bro-I thought you understood me after all this conversation.May be I was not able to convince virtually what kind of person I am,my bad.Never Mind. For any circumstances I won't need your free trash bag for My Nepalese Citizenship.I am proud to be Nepali whatever the condition my country face. If I am not wrong,you and me are in same boat,may be facing different direction.Also you and me are in same page while talking abt Political leaders. Good Luck Contour bro for whatever you do as Nepali.
 
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h1b brother....i understood you completely right after our second conversation. now, i have couple questions to you..hope you will wisely answer them.. - you love your country, you are being nice to her, why are you doing all your best to have your US status legal...why dont you do all your best to make our nation better in place? why do you always stay alert to maintain your status here in US? - what are the reasons that you are behind some of nepali leaders? - people are still fighting against those leaders, why not you join them? there are hundreds in martyrs list, there are thousands on wounded list, is your name also listed there yet? - if you dont stay there and dont do nothing for the nation, why do you expect it from other. h1b brother lai euta tukka sunauchhu hai " PAHILA KHALDO KHANNE, SATHI HARU LAI UKASERA KHALDO KO NAJIKAI PURYAUNE, ANI PACHHADI BATA BHUKKA LATTILE HANERA ARU LAI KHALDO MA HALNE, ANI AFU CHAHI KAMMAR MA HAAT RAKHERA, DADA MA BASERA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA GARNE" ask yourself...what do you do if your fren from your village ask you to strike they are organising there, or, to fight against the government? do you book a ticket immediately and fly? and if the answer is a big NO, then just shut the f*** up. dont even think about your nation. just worry about whatever you are at now,,otherwise you will be screwed badly and have to look for a trash american girl to get married with.
 
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contour bro,No Comments.
 
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