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Posted on 03-26-06 6:12 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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देउवाजीको भाषण र प्रश्‍नोत्‍तर सुन्‍न पाईयो। आरजुजीले पनि आफ्‍नो मन्‍त्‍ब्‍य राख्‍नुभो। उँहाहरुका कुरा सुनेर लागेका मेरा ब्‍यक्‍तिगत धारणा र टिपोट: -नेपालीको दुर्भाग्‍य भनौ देउवा तीन पल्‍ट प्र. म. बने। न त सुधरिने संभावना छ, न त उँहाले चेतेको जस्‍तो छ। -देउवाले भने, "by temparament and character, this king is not a democrat..." किन यत्रो समय लाग्‍यो यति बुझ्‍न? राजा र प्रजातत्रँ सगँसगै जाने कुरै छैन। इतिहासले देखाइसकेको छ। तु. गिरीले पनि यही कुरा दोहोर्‍याएका छन। तर पनि भोलि राजाले प्र.म. खान दिए चाटेर लिनेछन। -आफ्‍नो प्रधानमँत्रित्‍वकालमा बिशेष के के योगदान गरे र अबको रोडम्‍याप के हो भन्‍ने कुरामा देउवाले असक्षमता र असमर्थताका साथै अनभिज्ञता पनि प्रकट गरे। अरु के लेखम? यस्‍ता नेताले हामीलाई खाडलमा मात्र हालने हो। -देउवा आफैआफ नालायक र हाँसोको पात्र भएर जाने तर यसमा देउवा प्र.म. हुनमा काँग्रेसमा गिरीजाको नातावादी र भ्रष्‍टचारी नेतृत्‍व धेरै हदसम्‍म जिम्‍मेवारी छ। -आरजुले फेरि आफुलाई जुदृ शमसेरको नातिनी र सभ्रान्‍त परिवारको भएको याद दिलाए। ती लाइनहरु उहाँका बिशेष गरेर बिदेशीहरुसगँ कुरा गर्रदा ऊनीहरुलाई मक्‍ख पार्रन बराबर दोहोराईने वाक्‍यहरु जस्‍ता थिए। -बिदेशीहरुले नेपालीहरुमाथि शोध गरेर नेपालीहरुलाई शोध, शैक्षिक र पर्यटनको बिषयहरुमा सीमित राख्‍थे; अब यो हुनेखाने नेपालीहरुले पनि अपनाएका छन। -भ्रष्‍टचारका कुरामा देउवा चुप छन। कसरी उहाले नारायणथानमा दरवार बनाए। अमेरिकामा सपरिवार कुन पैसामा आए। जनताका सेवा गर्रने भन्‍नेले यी सब प्रश्‍नको जवाफ प्रष्‍टसगँ राख्‍नपर्‍यो। -तपाई दुवै नेपाली महिला र बालबालिकाको हित र स्‍वास्‍थ्‍यको चिन्‍ता राख्‍ने भए किन त्‍यतिका महिला र बालबालिकाहरु औषधिउपचार नपाई मरिरहेका छन, दुख भोगिरहेका छन? बिदेशीहरुसगँ हात फैलाएर पैसा लिइ काम भइरहेका छन भने अर्कातिर सभ्रान्‍त परिवारका र पाचँतारे होटलाका मालिक हेलेन शाहलाई औषधिउपचार गर्न किन सरकारी खर्चबाट तीस लाख रुपिया दिनुभयो तपाई प्र.म. भएका बेलामा??? किन?? -माओवादी, राजावादी, खाओवादी, एमाले होमाले र सात दलले पनि केही गर्ला भन्‍ने आशा कमै राखे हुन्‍छ। -देउवाजीलाई एउटा सुझाव के भने उँहा फेरि देशको नेतृत्‍व गर्ने इच्‍छा भए जनतामुखी हुनपर्‍यो। राणाजीहरुको चालखेलमा चलनुभएन। चँखे बाहुनहरुको जालझेलमा नपरी देशको सोझा जनताको दुखमर्का बुझिदिनपर्‍यो। (सबै बाहुनहरु चँखे र चालवाजी छैनन, सोझा र सेवी पनि छन) -आफ्‍नो सम्‍पुर्ण सम्‍पति सार्वजनिक गर्नपर्‍यो। यो नै गिरिजा र माकुनेलाई ठुलो चुनौती हुनेछ। माओवादीका जनमुखी र जायज कार्यक्रमहरुलाई आफनो दलको घोषणा पत्रमा हालिदिए माओवादी प्रतिको आकर्षण र समर्थन विस्‍तारै घटेर जानेछ। -सँबैधानिक सभाका लागि तपाईले समर्थन गर्रनुभो। त्‍यसमा चाँहि तपाईले राजासँगको रिसले होईन दुरदर्शिता साथ साँचो समर्थन गर्नुभएको होला भन्‍ने लाग्‍यो। -तर तपाईले आफ्‍नो मुल धारणा र कार्यसम्‍पादन अनि प्रस्‍तुतिमा आमुल परिवर्तन नगरे तपाईलाई ईतिहासमा सदैव असक्षम भु.पु. प्र. म. भनेर मात्र चिनिनेछन जसले तीन पल्‍ट प्र.म. हुँदा पनि केहि गरेनन जनताको निम्‍ति। लढनोस साँचो गणतत्रका लागि - तपाईका साथ दिनेछौ। लढनोस समावेशी प्रजातत्रका लागि, तपाईका साथ छौ।
 
Posted on 03-26-06 6:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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thanks for the post jhilka. my only hope is taht all these obsolete politicians will have to die sooner or later, and we will have a new kind of leadership emerging. (any kind is better than thiis).
 
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lfc123 is right. Current leaders of political parties should be buried with the king.
 
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Enjoyed reading this. Thanks, Jhilka. It's time Girija, Deuba, Madhav Nepal et al stepped aside and let younger (even if untested) Nepalis to take party-political leadership. As long as these failed netas are around in leadership positions (and we can say that even as we respect their past contributions), in a country like ours where more than 80 per cent of the 25-million population is under the age of 40, there is simply NO hope for any move forward. Unfortunately, there exists simply NO institutional mechanism for new, fresh and relevant-to-these-times leadership to emerge in any political party anytime soon. And that has been the greatest tragedy of our multi-party democracy -- that it made party-leadership so entrenched and so powerful (i.e. dictators in the parties) and it left no room for the process of peaceful competitions for leadership positions. Rather than compete for leadership positions, ambitious young politicians have to either break away and form their own parties or be called rebels for having differing views. As a citizen, I really see no hope except sitting around and waiting for these aged netas to naturally die off one by one and thereby clearing the path for younger ones. Some might say that that's an optimistic view. :-) oohi ashu
 
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Jhilke Dai: Thanks for sharing the information. Deuba is/was a pawn of Durbar. Inside the Durbar they call him Juwain Saheb. He will do noe good for the country. I have heard he is taking political asylam in US. That wil be wonderful if he did this but this is highly unlikely.
 
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SALEY DEUBA KATI BELA RAJA LEY PHERI PRIME MINISTER BANAUCHA RA BANULA BHANERA BASEKO CHA ......................CHOR GADA BHATEY YESTAI YESTAI NETA HARU LEY GARDA NAI NEPAL BIGRIYEKO HO KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
 
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Only those educated in American colleges and universities should hold leadership positions, eh? Good logic!!!
 
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देउबा जि खुपी भएको ब्यक्ती होईन, उहा सादे हरु को मिचैमा मन्त्री र प्रधानमन्त्री बन्नु भएको हो ।
 
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ashu jee, >>I really see no hope except sitting around and waiting for these aged netas to naturally die off one by one and thereby clearing the path for younger ones. exactly. हाम्रो देशका राजनेता यति हीन भएका छन् कि परिवर्तन चाहने हामीहरुले यही कुरा नसोची सुख छैन। तर, ती बुढाहरु मरेर जाउन्जेलसम्मा हामी र हाम्रा पुस्ता पनि बुढा भइसक्छौं। अनि हामीपछिको पुस्ताले हाम्रो पुस्ता बारेमा त्यही धारणा राख्नेछन्। यी बुढाहरुले ३०-४० वर्ष अगाडि आफ्ना अग्रजलाई त्यही भन्दथे होला। There is some sort of recursion. त्यसकारण यो प्रक्रियालाई टुङ्गो दिन भनेपनि हामीले यो धारणा र सोचाइ त्याग्नु जरुरी छ। के गर्ने हाम्रो सामाजिक संरचना नै शासक र शासितले पूरा भएको छ। जे सुकै भनेपनि, हामीले नचाहेर पनि, हाम्रो शरीरमा वास्तवमा निरङ्कुसता उक्स्याउने हर्मोन मात्र छन्। लामो उच्छ्वास् ।
 
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>>देउवाजीलाई एउटा सुझाव के भने उँहा फेरि देशको नेतृत्‍व गर्ने इच्‍छा भए जनतामुखी हुनपर्‍यो। Hoina bandhu, no corrupt politician should be given a second chance. Deuba has been given third chance, so it is time to bring him to justice for all the problems and corruptions he has orchestrated.
 
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>It's time Girija, Deuba, Madhav Nepal et al stepped aside and let younger >(even if untested) Nepalis to take party-political leadership. कुरा त एकदमै ठीक हो, तर नया युवा भनिनेहरुले पनि आन्फूलाइ अलि अघि बढाउन सक्नु पर्ने हो। जब सम्म युवाहरुले आफ्नो क्षमताले बूढाहरुलाइ बिस्थापित् गर्न सक्दैनन्, तबसम्म त यी बूढाहरुले आफ्नो आसन् छोड्लान् जस्तो मलाइ लाग्दैन। हाम्रा युवाहरु कस्ता परे त? भन्दा -- यी बुढाले येस्सो टीका लगाइदिए त म नेता हुन पाउने थिये नि भनेर आशा गर्ने। As far as the program in DC was concerned, Dr. Deuba presented the excerpts of her work. It sounded like, at times, that the benefits Nepali Conflict has done to Nepali women outweighed the harm. For example: Nepali women have realized their importance, have started to work together, and racial discrimination has reduced. She accepted she came from an aristocratic family -- I salute her for her bold disclosure.
 
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"Nepal Democracy Google Group" members were unanimous in only one understanding- that Deuba is the weakest link in SPA. Opinions regarding how to treat Deuba was split. Some were for "academic engagement", other were for "ignoring" him and still others were for "protesting". Opinion on Deuba's speech in Columbia conference also brought mixed reaction. Nepe
 
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Ashu: “I really see no hope except sitting around and waiting for these aged netas to naturally die off one by one and thereby clearing the path for younger ones.” As long as Nepalese have this kind of attitude, the situation of the country will never get better. Nepalese people cannot let the political scenario of Nepal be on auto-pilot. Nepalese have to take themselves by their hands and actively oust these inept politicians. Or else Nepalese are as inept as them, as responsible citizens. On the other hand, I have yet to comprehend why we always talk high of ranas, or why Nepalese feel proud of be a rana or somewhat be linked to it? Aren’t the ranas that dragged Nepal into dark ages? Their 104 years of direct rule only brought negative progress in Nepal, and we have declared the day Ranas were overthrown as independence/democracy day. So why do some nepalese always praise or view Ranas with admire? Instead one should be ashamed to be a rana or be associated with one.
 


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