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Posted on 07-12-10 5:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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What do you guys think about Tibetans who has a Nepali passport but
denies that he/she is from Nepal? They pretend as if they do not know
Nepal and get mad or show attitude if you ask them if they are from
Nepal. I have seen most come here on F-1 visa pretending they are
Nepalese and as soon as they land here they (some) hate Nepalese and deny the
fact that they are here because of Nepal and its people. They hate to be
affiliated with Nepal and its people.

No offense to anybody, I have in
fact very good Tibetan friends but honest opinions would be appreciated.




Once again I am not stereotyping against Tibetans but only to those who
possess the characters I have mentioned. Thanks!!

 
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Posted on 07-13-10 10:56 PM     [Snapshot: 1085]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hi Lamak,

I saw some of the posts you provided link of. Needless to say, I am ashamed of those who wrote racists slur there, but you should also pay attention to the fact that several of the Nepalese politicians have attended programs of Tibetans despite protests from Chinese embassy. Awhile ago, some MPs even went to pay homage to his holiness the Dalai Lama despite Chinese protest. This all point to the fact there are significant number of Nepalese who value Tibetans among us.

Given uncomfortable (at times) relation between India and China, we can't antagonize China, and yet, we have done what we could for Tibetans. If you remember how Chinese ambassador was angry last year (Nepal police arrests and release the protestors so they can protest the next day was his accusation), you understand Nepali situation. In the past, when Indira Gandhi was almost about to annex Nepal (she did so to Sikkim), we were in no position to antagonize china and yet we found a way to strike a balance between our support of Tibetan cause and our desire to keep China happy.

We all know that Tibetans have  been given citizenship in a wink-wink policy. (Of course, Tibetan contribution to Nepal is huge too). I won't blame them if they tear apart citizenship when they come abroad, because outside of Tibet, I am sure all other countries are same for them. But we must have goodwill for each other. (and like your parents, I am sure lots of Tibetans believe that Nepal is the closest to their homeland in its topography and culture)

 
Posted on 07-13-10 11:21 PM     [Snapshot: 1091]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bhote chor desh chod???.... well that would mean Most of my family too...half of which is.Gurung Tamang, sherpa(BHOTE) and Tibetans and rest of my family is mixed Baun,chhettry and some newars too.......Like I mentioned earlier I used to live in Boudha and have lots of friends and family with Tibetans....YET when it comes to BRIBES in Nepal.......we all know that NO ONE is exempt.....from poorest  to the richest. Its just our system in Nepal runs on Bribes just the scenario is different rich pay bribes and poor gets harshly extorted...and WHY Tibetans feel victims is anyones guess???? BUT in reality...almost every Nepalese from all castes are victims of this bribe and extortion system, we all  know that to do something in Nepal BRIBES makes things happen.......from court system, politics to police...BRIBES & EXTORTION are just another form of income to these under paid government officials thieves....all Nepalese hate them as you do too
                                     . lamak_98 Ido understand your pain but Im trying to say that we feel your pain too.....we Nepali people dont get any special treatment.......we go through hell too....may be not in the same location where Tibetans suffer but almost everywhere else.  One can personalize hate and shower them to others being a victim BUT a broader view is that we are no different we all share a similiar fate. I just dont let politics and rare cases change my judgement ...........I harness no ill fate to anyone.Jay Nepal

 
Posted on 07-14-10 8:06 AM     [Snapshot: 1202]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Simple analogy...Nepal = USA, Tibet = Mexico


Illegal Mexicans in the US often hate the Americans. They feel mistreated, harassed, and looked down upon.


You'll usually hear them referring to the whites as 'gringos' in a nasty tones. :-)


 
Posted on 07-14-10 8:31 AM     [Snapshot: 1213]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Every where there is discrimination even in so called heaven and even in my and your home. There is no 100% equal treatment.
We may have mistreated them but for sure human becomes bias on following grounds: Race, Religion, Nation, grid, Language, minority, elite caste, wealthiness, Educated with less wisdom and logical thoughts and so forth.
So, no matter how long they have been in the country they have been residing if they were not born or raised their childhood in that country will not feel part of the nation and some time they themselves create discrimination situation. 
Mexicans living in USA for over 20 years do not learn English and they want to be spoken in their native language and argue about discrimination.
So, did in NPR news, people from Muslim countries wanted to be recognized from their culture and religion rather than people individual and blame others being discriminated. If someone wanted to be communal than individual recognition then he/she will be different and there will be some or more discrimination.

i So the bottom line is how we going to look at a glass of water half empty or half full.

 
Posted on 07-19-10 11:04 AM     [Snapshot: 1372]     Reply [Subscribe]
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tibet is never going to be free(they know it pretty good)....so one day, the name tibet will be wiped out of every dictionary.they are just tryin to preserve it...dats it....
 
Posted on 07-19-10 11:45 AM     [Snapshot: 1399]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Why only Tibetians? I saw lots of Nepali with last name similar to Indian origin such as sharma/pandey/upadhaya/bhandari/etc (who has a Nepali passport but denies that he/she is from Nepal? They pretend as if they do not know Nepal and get mad or show attitude if you ask them if they are from Nepal.) pretend to be Indian. I have whole bunch of incident when I met with them at office and they disguise that they are from India but there ascent, dress up, attitude are completely Nepali (when asked about India…they even don’t know very very fundamental things). Even several time I asked them: Are you from Nepal? ....Reply is "NO"


 
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Never heard of it before(the post by Free H1B). I would love to meet these people and disclose their fake identity in front of everybody.  

 
Posted on 07-19-10 12:18 PM     [Snapshot: 1423]     Reply [Subscribe]
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If you are into IT industry then you will see this lot. I didn't unveil their identity instead I appreciated their trick coz when they change their nationality from Nepali to Indian they have better chance of surviving and work environment becomes pretty friendly. After all.....all famous people (including our Leader/Musician/Actor/Actress/Singer) are in good hand when they decline toward India.


 


 
Posted on 07-19-10 2:35 PM     [Snapshot: 1485]     Reply [Subscribe]
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HAN HAN HAN HAN ...TIBETAN LAI HAN...

 
Posted on 07-19-10 4:30 PM     [Snapshot: 1526]     Reply [Subscribe]
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who are Tibetans , for me Tibetans are sherpas and  lamas. I think they are very clever they will even trick Bahuns. I have a real story here, this freaking Tibetan bitch is so clever that she had sex with my Uncle and made my Uncle to give his duaghter's Hongkong ID to that Bitch. That Tibetan bitch changed her name to my neice name and went to Hongkong made money and then spent lots of money to pimps and went to US, now I heard she is in Newyork and is asylum, so clever freaking Tibetan bhotini, i hate them man, they will do anything for money, now she is making lots of money and has built nice building in Syambhu area, it just pisses me off. man. that frekaing old man wanted to fulfill his sex with that nasty bhotini bitch.
 
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@ sunsweesh,, wass up dude,, Is ur IQ zero... ???? Wat do ya knoe abt lamas and Sherpas??? Lamas is a clan.. There is lama in Gurung, Tamang, Hyolmo and Sherpa... If Aryan guys have a feeling that the Mongolian people residing in Nepal are all Tibetans n bhotes then u all Aryan people are Indians n Dhotis.. N you guys talk abt Nepal and Nepali..  Do ya knoe who is preserving Nepal.. It's the Mongolian people. Nepal is mainly famous for 3 reasons.
 First, Mt. Everest.. It's in Solukhumbu, a village mostly occupied by Sherpas and khambuwans(Kirats) aka Mongolian people.. Most records in Everest are set by Sherpas..
 Second,,Birthplace of Buddha,, Only 10- 15% Buddhist in Nepal and these are all mongolian people,, especially Sherpa, Gurung, Tamang..
 Third Gurkhas.. Gurkha regiment formed of Mongolian people especially Magar, Gurung, Rai , Limbu..

 I have never seen aryan names..Is there anything you guys can be proud of?????????


LMAO!!!!

 
Posted on 07-19-10 11:03 PM     [Snapshot: 1623]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nisha, 

What is the problem with you? This guy is a jerk and you fell right in his trap. Now, what's the point of talking about this aryan and nonaryan thing here? Just ignore him.  Competing to be as bad as the other guy is not going to win you anything.
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Posted on 07-20-10 11:51 AM     [Snapshot: 1724]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Is this fugging conversation benefitting anyone ? NOPE. Yestai gadha haru ley garera Nepal ko yo gatti bhaako. Yestai chahiney nachahiney kura matrai garna aucha yo gadha haru lai. Only if these MORONS spent the same amount of time in bettering our own lives .... NEPAL WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE. AKHIR Bheda haru ta paryooo ke garney khaaali Baaaaa Baaaaa matrai garna aucha....
 
Posted on 07-20-10 11:56 AM     [Snapshot: 1730]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Example:
To his guy his father and Harikrhishn and Ram's father is same because these all look the same.
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Posted on 07-20-10 3:34 PM     [Snapshot: 1793]     Reply [Subscribe]
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my bad i didn't know thast lamas and sherpas are not tibetans, but i think they are golddiggers man these tibetans
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Posted on 07-20-10 10:42 PM     [Snapshot: 1871]     Reply [Subscribe]
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hey u Moron do u even have some knowledge about Tamangs/ Lamas and Sherpas of Nepal and Tibetan of Tibet...???????? Sherpas and Tamangs are Nepalese though their ancestors might be from Tibet...
 
Posted on 07-21-10 2:08 AM     [Snapshot: 1935]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"He arrived in this country a decade ago, fleeing his native Tibet 
just ahead of China's political-dissent posse. He made it to Nepal, a 
well-worn path multiple thousands had taken before him.

He knew immediately he would need travel documents, which, from 
everything I have learned the past few days, are about as hard to 
purchase on the street there as a hamburger here."


Tibetans are portraying Nepalis as killers to get asylum. 




By Bill Johnson, johnsonw@RockyMountainNews.com
Rocky Mountain News (USA)
Wednesday, June 4, 2008

Maybe this is what we truly have been reduced to, either through our 
collective, irrational post-911 fear of non-Americans or the sheer, 
unseeing incompetence of our current government.

His name is Namgyal Tsering. He is 35, and for years now has worked 
as a maintenance man at a downtown Denver hotel.

He arrived in this country a decade ago, fleeing his native Tibet 
just ahead of China's political-dissent posse. He made it to Nepal, a 
well-worn path multiple thousands had taken before him.

He knew immediately he would need travel documents, which, from 
everything I have learned the past few days, are about as hard to 
purchase on the street there as a hamburger here.

He landed in the U.S., his fake Nepali passport in hand, and beat a 
path to Boulder County where, five years earlier, some 200 Tibetans 
he knew had arrived under a U.S. government-sponsored asylum 
resettlement program.

Namgyal Tsering was welcomed warmly, remembers Tenzin Dhongyal, 35,
now the president of the Tibetan Association of Colorado, whose own 
mother had fled to India, and was resettled by the U.S. government to 
Boulder County in 1993. He would arrive years later under a 
government-authorized family reunification act.

Namgyal Tsering went to work immediately, immersing himself in the 
local community, soon rising to a respected board position in the association.

In September 2002, he came forward and applied for asylum. He'd met a 
woman. He wanted a normal life.

There would be a series of hearings. The system would work its course.

Late last year, the federal ruling came down: Namgyal Tsering, not a 
single criminal or other mark on his record here, would have to be 
deported. He had been in the country too long, the rules said, before 
applying for asylum.

He would not, though, be deported back to either China or Tibet.

No, the judge ruled, he would be deported back to where his passport 
said he came from: Nepal.

This was so even though Immigration and Customs Enforcement's big 
problem all along was that Namgyal Tsering had been in the U.S. for 
four years on a fake Nepali passport.

He was arrested and placed in a detention facility on March 19, the 
same day ICE officials called him and he willingly went down on their 
invitation to come talk about his case.

A final appeal hearing is scheduled for Thursday. No one expects a 
reversal, which will make the man eligible for immediate deportation.

"They want to deport him because he is here on a fake Nepali 
passport, but are sending him to a place where they know he is not a 
citizen, where they know he will be immediately handed over to China, 
imprisoned, tortured and put to death because he is a Tibetan who 
fled Tibet," Tenzin Dhongyal said.

Namgyal Tsering was and still remains, he said, a man with limited 
English proficiency, who could not possibly have known the 
one-year-in-the-U.S. timeline rule related to seeking asylum.

It raises the question: When is a Tibetan with asylum rights in the 
U.S. not a Tibetan with asylum rights? When, apparently, he is a 
Tibetan holding for too long a phony Nepali passport.

"Everyone, including the U.S. government, knows it is how you get out 
of Tibet," Tenzin Dhongyal said. "There is no Tibetan passport. You 
get out through money and bribery.

"The U.S. clearly understands this and the need for asylum. It is why 
I and some 250 other Tibetans are here in Boulder County now, 
completely legally."

Nyima Yangkey, 33, of Lafayette, met Namgyal Tsering some four years 
ago, after she, too, was settled in Boulder County by the U.S. government.

They are in love. Sixteen months ago, they had a son together, 
Namkha. She is now beside herself.

"The judge," she pleaded in an interview on Tuesday, two days ahead 
of the appeal hearing, "does not understand. He must think this is a 
small deportation case, unmindful of what will happen if Namgyal is 
sent back to Nepal.

"It is just not fair to send him back to Nepal on a fake Nepali 
passport," she said. "My son is too young to lose his dad."

I should have expected the federal government's response to my 
inquiries about all of this. I had to go over it with several 
bureaucrats before I got one who would put his name behind his words.

"It was all argued before a federal judge," ICE spokesman Tim Counts 
said of Namgyal Tsering's case, refusing to consider even for a 
second the irony of deporting a man back to a country the U.S. 
government knows he not a citizen of, and what his likely fate will be.

"Our job," he said of ICE, "is to carry out the lawful orders of a 
federal judge. It is that simple."

I persisted. Certain imprisonment? Torture? Execution? Human rights?

Nothing registered.

At least this government today is not bothering much to even pretend 
anymore. I suppose we should all in a way be grateful for at least that.

Being a beacon for everything that is civilized, the last bulwark of 
hope for the world's unwashed, downtrodden, oppressed and repressed 
might have been an overreach to begin with.

I just hope I'm not the guy down the line who has to explain the 
timeline, the rules and the rest of it to little Namkha Tsering.

As much as it makes me sad and mad, it makes me shake

 
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freaking tibetans man
 
Posted on 07-22-10 11:46 AM     [Snapshot: 2138]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Not freaking Tibetan, rather I would say freaking Nepali who abuse the power and sold the passport.
Can you ask about your asylum case? What that easy? Do you really qualify for Asylum? What were you doing in Kathmandu, You said other to Pakhe and khate!

You are the freaking Half American. Someone needs a story about Canadian asylum, give him good advise so you grow the numbers as half americano.

 



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