Sajha Mitraharu, I have been working for a large American Healthcare Chain for little over a year now and currently on OPT extension. My employer is willing to sponsor me for EB2 GC. However, my current position requirements are identical across the US requiring Registered nurse, Licensed medical technologist or clinical laboratory scientist, Physician, OR a Healthcare Field related Bachelor degree such as respiratory therapy, public health etc . I joined the position with a master degree which is preferred, but not required (my grad and undergrad is from US). Also, the position Prefers 1 year of acute care hospital experience related to the job, but again it is not required. Since the job requirements are very generic and it is unlikely that the employer will create same OR any other position requiring Master degree or master degree+ some work experience, I am worried that there will be many Americans who will apply for this job if it gets advertised for labor certification.The position has high turnover rate across the nation and previous 3 Americans at my hospital individually didn't make past 1 year at the role, but honestly IDK if that will help my cause in anyway. I am at a southern bible state and the pay is similar or slightly higher than the RN. Now given this situation, do you see any possibility of me getting GC through EB2 for this position? Sabai sujhab haru ko lagi advance ma dhanyabaad (I will create another thread about maintaining my status during this whole process sometime later).
Saaney Gurung · Sep 9, 2015 8:37 PM · 17,312 views
If the job requirement stays the same, it will not qualify for EB2 . For EB2 job has to have requirement of Bacehlors + 5 yrs experience or masters degree required. (Preferred doesn't work, it must be required) Good thing these days is even with EB3, for Nepalese the wait time is like a month or so ! Almost similar to EB2. It used to be about 5 years wait for EB3 few years ago, not anymore !
I485 · Sep 9, 2015 8:42 PM
I845_ Thanks. I have talked to HR at my hospital couple times prior and he has no experience whatsoever about sponsorship. When I met him yesterday he was in rush to leave for vacation so he just mentioned,"I talked to a corporate person and we will sponsor you for GC which will take 14 months if everything goes smoothly." So, I just assumed it will be for EB2. In the evening he sent me an email saying have a copy of your OPT, updated Resume, and any license and certifications ready and I will get in touch with you once I return from my overseas vacation. So, if it was for EB3, which I don't know, do you think I might have difficulty getting the labor certification.The job has similar demand as nursing nationally especially when one has some work experience (I only had 4 months shadowing experience when I got the job). Also, how much time do you think (guess) it will take to get GC from EB3 if everything is to go smoothly.
Saaney Gurung · Sep 9, 2015 9:16 PM
Now, EB3 is just 1 months behind EB2's priority date for anyone other than Indian, Chinese, mexican and philippines. So you can say the processing time for EB2 and EB3 are same.
ny2 · Sep 9, 2015 9:28 PM
EB3 sounds better as it PWD is also lower than EB2 and moreover, EB3 is current for Nepal. Good Luck.
neerman · Sep 10, 2015 9:16 AM
Thank you all for the feedback.
Saaney Gurung · Sep 10, 2015 8:51 PM
EB3 is good, अप्प्लीकेसन कम गर्न को लागि , एडवरताएस्मेंट गर्दा सकेसम्म , मोंस्टर, केरीयार builder aviod गर्नु, लोकल तिरको पेपर, कम्पनी website , र अन्य unpopular तिर गर्नु. अनि पोस्ट मा जेनेरल type भन्दा अलि specific खालको पोस्ट राख्नु, (not RN, MT but some specific kind) माइ २ सेन्ट्स.
Land_of_gorkhali · Sep 11, 2015 8:56 AM
@land_of_gorkhali Dherai Dhanyabad. Yi sabai sujhab mero HR lai bhanchu ma. Herdai jau K hucha bhabisye ma.
Saaney Gurung · Sep 12, 2015 9:39 AM
Saaney Jee, It looks like your company will definitely help you out. At least they have agreed to file a Green Card for you, that's a best thing. Don't worry about EB2 or EB3 at this time. Time period is almost the same for both categories right now. They'll certainly do something to get Labor Certification approved once they start the process. Good Luck.
I485 · Sep 12, 2015 12:24 PM
few things to note to all, maybe, my understanding is wrong. Please correct me, if I am wrong at any point: 1. If you can get an experience letter from your home country, obviously Nepal, from a hospital or some clinic that you have 5 years of work experience, that will really help. And it is really important for the situation where you are in. 2. Do not worry about who would apply when the job would be posted online, and in local newspaper. It is up to the decision to your employer whom to select whoever applies. Yes hundreds of candidates would apply for the position once it is online, but it is your employer who has to select. Your employer can always select you over other candidates. So it is up to your relationship with your employer who they would select. If you have a good rapport with your employer, then, you do not need to worry who applies and what experience they do have. 3. Also understand that if you are in OPT, that means you are in F 1 status. And from F 1 status, there is no way you can go to green card. You must have a H1 to go to green card. You cannot, as per law, jump from F 1 (Student or OPT) to green card. You may need to contact an immigration attorney for that to clarify your doubts.Yes, your labor certificate will approve even if you are in F1 (meaning in OPT) but, your application for I 140 filed from your employer will be denied because the intention of F 1 status is to study, get hands on experience and return to your home land. But, once your employer files for I 140, that means, you have a plan to reside in the USA permanently. That is a dual intention. You are in F 1 and came to USA stating you would return, and now, you are planning to stay in USA permanently. So USCIS will deny the petition of I 140. Please do not get confused on my explanation of going to H 1 from F 1, that is completely different rule and law. Also, please note that I am not an immigration attorney or any such person who knows immigration law of the USA. I am just sharing my personal experience and I should not be liable for any thing I mentioned. I would suggest you contact a good immigration attorney and get the matter straight. Last edited: 12-Sep-15 11:47 PM
RadheShyam · Sep 12, 2015 11:40 PM
Saaney, First congratulations for getting such an immigrant friendly employer, not many employers prefer to sponsor foreigners now a days. As most of the people said there is not much time difference between EB2 and EB3, on your case EB3 sounds more wise/logical. As long as you have your employer is on your back no matter of how many people apply for job, you are the only one who is getting that job. What RadheShyam said about F1 to GC is very true. It is not that F1 cannot apply GC but chance of approval is very slim ( reason explained by RadheShyam). I was in similar situation earlier this year with extended OPT expiring on August. My lawyer explained (as Radheshyam explained) same thing, and also warned that if my GC petition is rejected then I will no longer be able to get student status since I intended to stay here being F1. In order not to be on such situation H1 is must before filing GC. As you said your HR representative has no previous experience with sponsorship you got to be extra careful with your application and if I were you I would ask him to get immigration lawyer ( which I did on my case). Filling immigration form is tough and are confusing and could save lot of time and make your process smooth with properly filled form. Other thing I would like to ask you is what is the urgency of filing GC before H1? As you said you work at Hospital, most of the jobs at hospital are CAP EXEMPTED ( can be filed any time of the year and has limitless quotas as far as I know). I am not sure if you and your employer are aware of it. Having H1 buys time as well for 6 yrs which should be more than enough to get green card. P.S : Above mentioned is not an legal advice. Long_horn
long_horn · Sep 13, 2015 9:18 AM
@Radheshyam Dhanyabad Sathi. As far as going directly to GC from OPT goes I saw conflicting answers on web with some saying it can be done while other saying it can not be done. I will bring this matter to the attention of our corporate immigration attorney to see what s/he has to say. Also, if you know a good immigration attorney in Dallas area please do let me know (I can consult them next time when I am in Dallas areas to see my buddies). Last edited: 13-Sep-15 07:09 PM
Saaney Gurung · Sep 13, 2015 7:07 PM
Your employer can definitely petition for your GC while you are on OPT. USCIS does not deny your GC petition just because your employer filed for it while you are on OPT (F1 visa). The main concern is the timing. If your OPT expires before you get EAD (from EAD/AP/i485 application) with pending i485, then you cannot continue working and need to leave US. You can also apply for H1 in the mean time while you are in the process of GC application. If you are on 17 month OPT extension, you are in good position to go through EB processing. Whether your PERM or i140 is approved depends on whether you education/skills are suited for the job position. Your OPT status will not hamper in any decision making byUSCIS.
ny2 · Sep 13, 2015 8:11 PM
@long_horn Thank you. Its really good to hear from someone who was on the same boat. My hospital is part of a largest for PROFIT speciality hospital in USA so I doubt it is CAP Exempt. I checked my work email couple hours ago and saw an email from Corporate international recruiter and here is what she said (1) I have extensive experience of successfully handling cases such as yours (2) We will do PREMIUM processing for your case and whole thing should take 12-16 months (3) We will pay the total cost which will run from $8K-$10K, but you will have to sign a work contract [doesn't mention for how long] (4) Your hospital HR, You, me, and our corporate Immigration lawyer will have a conference call in next 1-2 week and we will then discuss the case further. About why I am on rush (1) Prefer NOT to take a chance with H1B lottery even though I will have better odds with 20K cap for individuals with US grad degree (2) I am thinking of going back to school for last degree of my life in next 3-4 years by when I will already be in my Mid-thirties. The program is really long and I want to be eligible for it ASAP. Getting admitted and paying the tuition for the program without GC is almost impossible (3) Been on F1 for a decade now so just tired of it and all the limitations that come with the status. Lastly I will discuss whether or not I can go for GC directly from OPT without H1B with the corporate lawyer. Also, if you know a good immigration attorney in Dallas area please do let me know (I can consult them next time when I am in Dallas areas to see my buddies). Last edited: 13-Sep-15 08:31 PM
Saaney Gurung · Sep 13, 2015 8:19 PM
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