All Nepali leaders are purchased by India : they are acting on it. May be sooner or later it going to happen. As the population of Indian origin going  up and will become the majority: they may demand to be a state of India.

MaGorkhe1 · Apr 29, 2013 11:03 AM

If Nepal becomes an indian territory then the Nepalese Rupees will cease to exist. I think we are better off saving in dollars.

Patan · Apr 29, 2013 11:14 AM

The best option would be to be a far flung state of USA. USA would only be too happy with this proposal. Imagine the great developmental activities that would take place here at the same time preserving our cultural identity. To a lesser extent joining India would be a great solution also. Sikkim is a wonderful state, beautiful and good law and order. Nepal could be same. India has much more money than Nepal. By joining India, as a state, Nepal will be able to preserve her cultural identity without being racist, much like Sikkim does. Otherwise slowly more and more indians will take up citizenship in Terai and they will eventually become majority, thus even as an independent country, it will be a mini India anyways.  Nepal can never educate her people, uplift poverty nor fend for herself in a crisis. I know. I know. Hami gorkhali ho hamro maato blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.......this dialogue does not feed people. IT is time that Nepalis realise that we are failed country.

freedom2012 · Apr 29, 2013 11:37 AM

@ FREEDOM Why don't you STFU ? I know you are a cosmopolitan and global citizen ( sadly carrrying nepali passport, i guess) but all the nepalese people are not advanced like you. Many of them still love Nepal as an independent country and can stay poorer happily than being an indian. I know most of the commentor including OP of this thread are bahuns except patan ( i guess) as I have heard same lines from bahun people since I was in school. Who is responsible for [Disallowed String for - bad word]ed up state on nepal? Koirala, Dahal, nepal, khanal, bhattarai, Pokhrel, etc right??? Why don't these people quit politics on which they already proved themselves that they suck. If you think Sikkim is better because of her assimilation in india why don't you migrate and settle to india, the place you guys originally belong to? Nepal will be a good country provided all the corrupt people are out of her. Jasle nepal nirman ko lagi ek thopa ragat bagako chaina tyasta mujji haru le garne ho yasto kura.....

gORKHEcOWBoY · Apr 29, 2013 5:52 PM

@ cowboy, Nepal nirman ko lagi ragat haina, paisa bagaunu parcha. Ragat ta prachanda le dherai bagayo ni saathi, khai Nepal ko halat jhan worse bhayo ta?. You are right about politicians and their caste but how can you prove that any other caste would have done better?. Many people if given a chance between a better life and Nepal will choose a better life. That is why people go middle, west.....in hope to get a better life. They will return to Nepal and live a better life. So you are wrong that people would prefer misery over a better life. You speak for a minority of these khukuri wielding, khatra dialogue mouthing group of Nepalis who have nothing better to do than inciting violence. The good thing about being educated that we are able to think. Use our brain to find a good solution for a problem. This is what the OP is thinking. And i am thinking. You may not agree with it but stop telling lies that people in Nepal prefer misery over a better life. You can die for "maato" let others find a better life and solution. IF you like Nepal maato so much go and eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner and give your rice to the hungry.

freedom2012 · Apr 29, 2013 6:22 PM

Nepal will be better off as a state of USA.

mancini · Apr 29, 2013 6:44 PM

 @freedom Why don't you change your profile name to slave? Word freedom does not suit you. Are you a son/ daughter of a puppet of India who is insisting to sell self-existence? So you are only the educated person that can think, huh?? You have the real problem of superiority. So mato does not mean anything rite? Did you use to have mato in breakfast, lunch and dinner?  And having your own country is the matter of mato only, right? Where did you learn this?  I am not talking about that thug son of a gun bastard prachande. Don't you think establishment of nepal as a country costed lives of so many nepalese? If ceding to India is only solution why our ancestors sacrificed their lives? Do you think they were idiots? What if after annexing to india nepal becomes another Orrissa, or andhra pradesh or many [Disallowed String for - bad word]ed up states in the northeast? Can you guarantee Nepal will be a flourished country after merge?  It's all the matter of how you are raised, my friend. Many of us still can't exchange our pride with money India gives. I can understand you come from a very obliged background so you do not know the meaning of what it takes to be independent. 

gorkhecowboy · Apr 29, 2013 6:59 PM

 नेपाललाइ भारतको राज्य बनाउनु आगोमा घिउ हाल्नु सरह हुनेछ | नेपाली जनताको इछ्या बिरुद्ध भारतले  नेपालीको तिब्बतीकरण, वा सिक्किमीकरण गर्नु मुर्खता हो, र त्यो कुरो भारतीय सरकारले राम्ररि जानेको छ |    दोस्रो कुरा, मैले देखेको बुझेको भरमा भन्दा, नेपाली जनताले कैले पानि जनमतसंग्रहबाट नेपाललाइ भारत गणराज्यमा छिराउदैनन् | भारतको संगरछणमा नेपालको भौतिक विकास होला नहोला त्यो आफ्नै ठाउँमा छ, तर नेपालमा गृह-युद्ध भने जरूर हुन्छ | र आर्को कुरो, नेपालको भौतिक एबम मानब विकासका लागि भारतको राज्य हुनु जरूरी छैन | नेताहरुलाइ जति गालि गरेनि लोकतन्त्र त आयो, अब बिस्तारै विकास नि हुन्छ | 1947 मा स्वतन्त्र भएको भारत आइले आएर तात्न थाल्या छ भने नेपाललाइ अलिक टायम लागि हाल्छ नि | रोम एक रातमा बन्या सहर हो र ?   यो भो मेरो बिस्लेसन |   अब आफ्नो व्यक्तिगत हेराइको कुरो राख्नु पर्दा मानिसको कुनै देश हुदैन जास्तो लाग्छ | जहाँ सुखी खुशी हुन सकिन्छ तेही बस्ने हो | जुपिटर मा कुनै दिन राम्रो होला जास्तो भो भने जुपिटर कै ग्रीन कार्ड खोज्छु मा त |

CharlieSheen · Apr 29, 2013 7:03 PM

गीत हिन्दि फिल्म हिन्दि च्यानल हिन्दि मन पर्ने हिरो हिन्दि हग्ने/ पुसने समान हिन्दि केटि को कुरा गर्दा रिफेरेंस हिन्दि पार्टी मा बजाउने गीत हिन्दि अब अमेरिका मा हेर्ने फिल्म(hall print kani kani) हिन्दि खाना पाए सम्म नेपाली नत्र buffet हिन्दि ग्यास स्टेशन को मालिक हिन्दि ग्रोसरी गर्ने ठाउँ पनि हिन्दि देवी देउता को दर्शन गर्ने ठाउँ हिन्दि NJ 2 FL 2 CA consultancy pani हिन्दि ह१ गराउने पनि / ठग बनाउने हिन्द अब हिन्दि भएन भने नेपाली को के हुन्छ ............ अनि लास्ट मा sale madhise re ....this is 21st century and nepal should be open to India and china for trade and commerce. Nothing wrong with that. And what's this nonsese with Nepal being India's territory ? That will never happen . Of course they have influence over our politics, culture and economy but we have to coexist together.   They always look down on canada but canada is not a part of USA.   Ani all the cosmopolitants can fart in a glass and smell themselves........ LOL COSMOPOLITANT re .........Who are you people ?   Last edited: 29-Apr-13 07:17 PM

Masane · Apr 29, 2013 7:13 PM

 वास्तव मा फ्रीडोम जस्ता सोचाई भएका मानिस हरु नेपाल को राजनीति तथा नीति निर्माण तह मा हाबी हुनका कारण ले हाम्रो देश को हालत पतला भएको हो | संसार भरि बाट भिक् मागेर ल्याएको पैसा भ्रस्टाचार गरेर आफ्नो बैंक खाता bharyo, chhora chhori lai america pathayo अनि घण्टा हुन्छा देश बिकाश ? यदि देश बिकाश को असली अठोट छ भने देश बनाउन सकिन्छ भन्ने उदाहरण यत्रतत्र छन् | खाँचो छ केवल इमान्दारिता को | नागरिकता बेचेर, भारत संग रास्त्रघती सन्धि गरेर, भारत को नेपाल हडप्ने प्लान मा सहयोग पुर्याएर जसरि भए पनि पैसा कमाउनु पर्ने अनि त्यस्ता नेता -कर्मचारी का छोरा छोरि हरु चै नेपाल लाई भारत मा मिलायो भने रामबाण ले जस्तो सबै समस्या को हल हुन्छ भन्ने सोचाई दास मनोब्रिती हो | केवल भ्रस्टाचार मात्र कम गर्ने र हरेक कुरा मा भारत को गेडा मोल्ने काम हाम्रा सर्बश्रेस्ट नेता हरुले छाड्ने हो भने नेपाल को विकास हुन धेरै समय लाग्छ जस्तो लाग्दैन | अर्को कुरा जुन फ्रीडोम जस्ता हाम्रा शिक्षित साथी हरु लाई पटक्कै मन पर्दैन, नेपाल मा अझ पनि म र म जस्ता लाखौ मानिस हरु छन् जो यस्तो नामर्दी कुरा गर्ने र गर्न बाध्य पार्ने हरु को गेडा झिकेर पात मा राख्न सक्छन | PS : You can live anywhere  you want but do not bullshit in साझा. Mind  it ! Last edited: 29-Apr-13 07:33 PM

gorkhecowboy · Apr 29, 2013 7:25 PM

 It is ashamed to hear smart people in the chain saying is it better of  to be part of india ? i am not sure what is our nepali mentality how can anybody imagine to be slave of different country ? rule by indians ? i mean i don't understand what goes in our mind ? You saying we better giving our country to others meaning ruled by others ? do you even think of what you saying ?

Yeap · Apr 29, 2013 7:31 PM

@ cowboy, Nepal being landlocked is also another reason that Nepal cannot progress much. And our equidistant policy also will always confuse us as half politicians will favour India, other half favour China. We are caught in this power struggle also. There are other world players present in Nepal. Thus overall making Nepal ghar ko na ghat ko. You talk of Nepal unification but the instituition which unified Nepal has already been kicked out. So much for respecting the unification of Nepal. Ordinary people simply want to eat and sleep and have a comfortable life. I do not know about Orissa but i am sure people there have more hospitals, more schools, cheaper food, etc. Anyways, i know maato loving nepali people will never allow this. They care more about the maato than upliftment of poverty. Who cares if a person in the hills dies because of lack of hospital or proper road or lack of food as long as there is maato and independent country called Nepal. Right?. Go and tell them to keep on waiting for a successful Nepal. Meanwhile as most Nepalis suffer, guys like you will always remain happy because Nepal is independent country. Hurray.

freedom2012 · Apr 29, 2013 7:34 PM

I agree with Freedom2012, Nepal needs to be a part of USA or territory. The reason Nepal is [Disallowed String for - bad word]ed up is due to Bahun Chetri politicians who r loyal to India n who likes to speak hindi n promote Hindi movies n musics. Look at Bhutan they chased all Nepali Bhutanese mostly Bahun Chetris who were Hindus n now their country is developed. I don't want Nepal to be taken by China either. [Disallowed String for - bad word] Dilip Rai who is either Indian puppett or Chinese. Bahun Chetris r very cunning people not hardworking who likes to cheat. They will sell anything to India for money. I don't support Dilip Rai either. Last edited: 29-Apr-13 07:54 PM

Gorikopoi · Apr 29, 2013 7:43 PM

 गोरीकोपोइ सोल्टाले सहि कुरो गर्यो, बाहुन छेत्री हरुले गर्दा नै नेपालको विकास हुन नसकेको हो | तिनीहरुले नेपालको पैसा आफ्नो खल्तीमा हालेर एकदिन इंडिया फर्किने प्लान गरिरको हुनु पर्छ | धोति त हुन् नि माम्पकाहरु | बाहुन छेत्री हरु नभाको भए नेपाल ऐले कोरिया, जापान, मल्य्सिया जास्तो हुन्थ्यो, कोरिया जापानमा बाहुनहरु नभएर त तिनीहरु को बिकास भाको हो |अमेरिका इंगलैंड जर्मनी काइ पनि बाहुन छैनन्, तेइ भएर त तिनी हरु को विकास भाको हो नि | हिटलर यहुदीहरु लाइ गर्या जास्तई सब मुजी बाहुन छेत्त्रीहरु लाइ सर्वस्व हरण गरेर मरुन्जेल मजदुरी गराउनु पर्छ, अनि हुन्छ विकास | तेइ मौकामा सब मदिसे, माडे, अनि सब गे लेस्बियन , मुस्लिम, क्रिस्टियन सब लाइ थुनेर काम गराउनु पर्छ | अनि हुन्छ बिकास |   कि कसो गोरी को पोइ ? बीर नेपाली हौ हामी, लाहुरे को सन्तान, सहिदको रगत 

CharlieSheen · Apr 29, 2013 8:02 PM

gorikopoi is absolutely right, had they been there, they'd have completely corrupted the sytem over the course of time. Bhutan accepted them until they started politics, bombblasting and Bhutan knew if they allow them, they would become another Nepal or some rotten country. These very few bhutaness of nepalese origin(of course mostly are indian origin in history) were the most demented criminals who turn to violence to meet their demand. And, all those others had to suffer at the end being refugees thrown out of the country. Though it's bit too much as from human rights perspective bhutan did best for it's interest. I would like Nepal to be the part of China than India but chances are Nepal will be merged to India because of cultural similarities. One day, if people are treated well, they'll sing songs for new ruler, that's how the mentality of normal citizens. Before Prithivi Narayan, citizens were under different rulers and they're happily living under their reigns, and unification happened and citizens lived happily living under new reign. If Nepal is merged, and development skyrockets and people are treated well, who the hell will raise the voice against new govt, albeit those few anti-social criminals acting up could not be disregarded

bittertruth · Apr 29, 2013 8:22 PM

 Lol @ all the comments. sala traitor haru. Ya'll who doesn't want to stay in Nepal are free to go wherever you want.    And by the way there are more poverty in India than Nepal and Indian government are no less than nepalese government in corruptions but i still love my country and I am proud to be nepalese

giordano · Apr 29, 2013 9:33 PM

Real question is why would any country be it India or any other country want to take Nepal as their state. There is a reason why British never came after Nepal. We all think its because we were 'strong ' but part of the reason is Nepal has nothing to offer . Nobody is looking for headaches besides getting more territorial land etc was the old way that's not how countries think of power now and based on how our politicians behave Nepal is already a part of India believe it or not. As you all know nothing happens in Nepal without indian support. An ambassador of India to Nepal can summon all the ministers and prime minister whenever he she desires. All the politicians go to India for "pilgrimage". Maoists lived in India while brainwashing people about how they are against India and USA. It's all a game.

Yuvaraj · Apr 29, 2013 9:39 PM

Nepal would not do better off as a state of India.. I being a "BAHUN" do not want nepal to be annexed to India.Reason being Nepal borders UP and bihar worst states of India.. That being said people here are stereotyping bahuns for not being able to do anything despite being in power.... Yatro educated vayera yasto naive kura garna yaha sajha ko mitra haruley chai suhaudaina....aru jaat ko lai kasley rokeko thiyo ra power ma jana ko lagi..bahun and chetry combine ma percentage wise herney ho vaney 26% cha....baki 74% aru jaat ko cha....you mean to say 26% bahun ra chetry 74% lai con garyo ani power ma gayoo...what a lame thing to talk about... gorikopoi.. i think rather than stereotyping and putting a blunt allegations on bahuns and chetrys try and see the history who sold most of the Nepal's teritory to India..was it bahun or then kings(not bahun) who were so scared of their life that they chose to give up...everyone had a fair chance and  the people who were "NOT BAHUNS" were not smart enough to go up in power...At least our kings thought so who apparently was not bahun as well... Oh yes i forgot "IS IT BAHUNS and CHETRYs who go and fight for INDIAN ARMY enchanting Indian anthem?I heard that 99% of Nepali recruits in Indian army are of mongolian Nepalese...Also if you really want to stereotype most of the "NON BAHUNs and CHETRYS " go to India and work as watchmen and you are under the impression that BAHUNS are trying to sell our country to India whereas people of your "CASTE \" are being faithful to India.. I think the only people who would sell Nepal to India would be NON BAHUNS provided their faithfulness with India.I doubt they would fight against Nepal...  i think you have forgotten about tibet...if nepal gets annexed to china..it will be a communist state and hence no freedom..it will be another tibet...... May be "NON BAHUNS" are hardworking thats why NON BAHUNS are the most educated groups in Nepal and hence they are getting the right opportunities.... Every people who were born and raised in Nepal is Nepali..don't try and go back in the history and try and pull up where bahuns come from..If that is the case alll human beings originated from Africa..that way we all are africans....

champak123 · Apr 29, 2013 9:49 PM

I think if Nepal was really on sale, it would sell like a hotcake. Namely 2 reasons. 1)water resources 2)geographical position. USA would be the first country to respond. USA always seeks geographical advantage. Which better country than Nepal to keep an eye on China, India and Pakistan. Within 10-20 years, USA will make Nepal into a 1st world country. Others countries will show respect towards the new nepalese americans. No more bullying. No more dirty politics. Population less than 3 crores, in less than 2 decades there will be 100% literacy rate, even the most remotest of location will be linked, hospitals, schools, etc. Buddha would have been born in USA. Mount Everest would be in USA. No campaign is needed. We would be the 52nd state of USA after Puerto Rico joins in before us.  We will not get as much with india but there will be considerable reduction in poverty. As an indian state, we could make it illegal for people from other states to reside or live in New Nepal. There will be a lot of investments coming in. Perhaps this new nepal could join with sikkim, darjeeling to make a Greater Nepal state within india. This state will have only 2-3 crore population, we will be the richest state of india. And the safest in 10-20 years.  China would be an option also but China is well know for not giving freedom and suppressing people. So China is out until she improves her image.  I am freedom2012 and i approve this message.  

freedom2012 · Apr 29, 2013 10:20 PM

giordano, you should be proud to be a human, to be an earthling. 'Proud to be a Nepalese or any other nations' shows some good sentiments attached to the land you were born in, am not against this sentiment,but  remember, borders were created, we first are human and then earthlings, and then whatever name  you wanna add at the end -ese,-can,-ians at the end.. your choice. Should there be apocalyptic scenario , say massive Apophis Asteroid hit our planet in coming year 2032, say it hit the mediterranean region around equator, do you really think, being of certain nation will save you from catastrophe?  so why all this fuss. We belong to this planet, whereever we're treated better, we have a choice to go there, How can we be traitors when our only wish is to be in better place? Isn't our only reason of existence is to be happy? Introspect yourself, every single move in your entire life is geared to become happy and SHOULD be to make other happy. Many fail miserably to achieve it, few succeed. Chill !!!

bittertruth · Apr 30, 2013 12:26 AM

 @ bittertruth  If thats the case y wud you say i would like nepal to be a part of china? The same way I am proud to be Nepalese and I will always be. You can't change my view I am sorry.

giordano · Apr 30, 2013 12:36 AM

Few things in my opinion, Nepal will never be taken by India or USA, namely because of China being in close proximity and China will never take over Nepal either because of India and USA influence. Having said that why would anyone want to take over Nepal? what is the ROI that will justify waging a war to takeover Nepal? India will never annex Nepal because they know that is not going to be fruitful for them, they have learned their lesson from sikkim and mizoram/manipur headache.  They are already influencing Nepal's policies by pressuring the ruling party, whether it is maoist, congress, monarchs or otherwise by dictating the policies that favor them so why even bother? ultimately our geographical location forces us to comply with them and there is very little we can do and they very well know this. In that regards India has already taken over Nepal, modern day occupation of a foreign country does not involve forceful takeover, rather it involves creation of policies that favors one's nation as much as possible without having to shed a single drop of blood.  

chaurey · Apr 30, 2013 9:30 AM

 Our Politicians are nothing but Puppets of Indian Government. They have all been castrated therefore only have the ability to bark and not bite. Maoists came into power hoping to gather up their mojo and put on a show but ended up all castrato. 

BathroomCoffee · Apr 30, 2013 10:19 AM

Wow I didn't expect this much response since it was only a rhetoric question. Because as we know it, it is highly unlikely that India will be directly able to take over another sovereign country in this day and age. But as couple of you have pointed, India does not need to take over Nepal because India already has pretty much full control over Nepal be it social, cultural or political. Inspite of us marvelling at our bravery and being blessed with Mount everest and buddha birthplace, India has always held control over the socio-political aspect of Nepal. Some of us responding here have lived out of Nepal for sometime so we have different experience in evaluating patriotic sense with common sense. We grew up being fed propaganda text books extolling the greatness of our ancestors and our kings thus holding us captive in our deepest mind to burn that unflickering candle of patriotism within us. Brainwashed to find great value on a giant piece of stone and the luck of birth of Buddha, our sense of false pride has constituted our ego for lack of anything else major or worthy of being proud. Some of us have recently left Nepal in search of better opportunities and the years of brainwashing of false greatness is still there so we will try to hold on to the insignificant hollow pride. After becoming the so called 'global citizen' one has to recognize the essence of freedom of choice which brought you out of Nepal in the first place. Of course you have emotional connections but you chose to leave it all behind but you still have enormous pride for being a Nepali and it is engraved in your ego. But as a practical person, if someone ask what you are proud of then there is no achievement or anything else you can say besides the overused mountain and the buddha. Perhaps instead of holding on to the hollow pride, we can move on as a whole and accept the truth and the reality that Nepal is a failed state created by the greed of politicians who mostly come from poor underpriviledged upbringing and continue the cycle of the neverending downward spiral. It is difficult to imagine what would stop this process. Have any of you thought what would actually stop this cycle of corruption and greed?

nepaluk · Apr 30, 2013 10:31 AM

@nepaluk, couldn't agree more. and for your last question, one word answer : Miracle

bittertruth · Apr 30, 2013 10:45 AM

go phuck yourself, nepaluk, would you sell your mother into prostitution if your life is little worse. look at where nepal was and where nepal is right now. things are not as good as it we hoped for but it's not that bad either. progress and development takes time. nepal is going through revolution right and she will definitely come out winner in near future. you talk like India is a heaven that will solve all the problem. go take a deaper look at india's problem and come back here. it is worst than nepal.

dolphin · Apr 30, 2013 1:02 PM

Ghantaa pragati huncha yesari jhagada gare pachi? Nepal bata thousands miles para basera "Yo vayena tyo vayena". we all have our own reasons to leave nepal. Nepal ko pragati ko kura garne re...AHILE SAMMA TAH BAHUN TAH CHETTRI TAH GURUNG TAH NEWAR vanne kurama jhagada huncha...ghantaa ko pragati. You know what? Now I actually think that Nepal should be invaded by India. ANI JABA DHOTI HARU LE PELCHA ANI TESPACHI KO BAHUN KO CHETTRI KO GURUNG KO NEWAR....AJHAI SAMMA JAAT BHAAT KO KURA LE JHAGADA GARCHAN BHUSYAA KUKUR JASTO. KURA CHAI NEPAL NAI CHALAAUNE JASTO GARCHAN Jay Nepal

saywhat · Apr 30, 2013 1:10 PM

dolphin you probably cannot distinguish between the person who gave you birth and the place of your birth. The place of birth is a man made restriction as far as border of land while a mother is someone who gave you birth by keeping you in her womb for 9 months. There is no comparision to mother and place of birth. You may be brainwashed by things like mother and motherland blah blah but motherland is nothing but the ground where people have put border around calling their country. My motherland is the earth. I am not restricted by any borders in my head and I feel sorry for narrow minded people like you who can't think beyond their own restrictive borders in your brain that somebody else have set for you.

nepaluk · Apr 30, 2013 2:03 PM

 Dolphin it ain't gonna make no difference, you will have an Indian politician Pimp instead of a Nepali politician Pimp if you are a prostitute. Bottom line things are not going to get any bettar for anyone trying to put food on the table for wife and kids. Things are not good and not bad either ? Who are you fugging kidding ? You think we are blind here ? look at the price of 1kg rice, that just says it all. Yes progress and developement takes time ..ok BUT ITS BEEN 3 FUGGING YRS & THE INDEX OF PROGRESS HAS TAKEN A DIVE BELOW THE PAR. THERE IS NO SECURITY, NO LAW AND ORDER, PPL ARE SCARED TO GO OUT AT NIGHT and you fugging call this progress ? If you want to open an industry or do anything you still have to bribe the officials from top to bottom and this is fugging progress ? Winner in the end rey ? I DON'T SEE ANY FUGGING LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL MORON !!  SO FAR THIS REVOLUTION HAS NOT MADE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THAT RICKSAWALLA, OR THE BHARIYA, OR THAT KISSAN TO MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER. AGAIN YOU ARE GOING TO SAY IT TAKES TIME... WELL GYANEY(i AM NOT A FAN) GOT ONE YEAR, MAOIST HAVE HAD THREE(YRS OF SITTING ON THEIR ASSES FILLING THEIR POCKETS)... YOU DO THE MATH. 

BathroomCoffee · Apr 30, 2013 2:08 PM

If one were to do a study on any Nepalese who says "I am proud to be Nepalese", you will find that these people come from middle class or the upper class, who will not suffer no matter how long it takes for Nepal to be a success. So they have all the patience. They form 10% of Nepal's population. I also belong to this 10% who can afford to wait for a successful Nepal. But is this about the 10% or the 90% who really struggle from day to day to make ends meet, struggle for proper healthcare, struggle for almost everything that one should not struggle for to function as a human being in an ordinary life. Why should this 90% keep on waiting?. They are the ones to suffer and always wait and wait. Who are we the 10% to always decide for them to wait. What if you belonged to that 90% needing food, shelter, healthcare, job, etc?. Would you still have that patience to wait?. Why should they even wait 1 minute, let alone wait for yonks. If i were president of Nepal, i had do the most Anti National thing. Call for a referendum to be ruled by white people (USA). At least this 90% will see some relief. Even joining India is a great idea that i would discuss with my kitchen cabinet. IF this is done in a legal way, UN will have no issues. Puerto Rico is also contemplating joining USA and could be a reality of the near future. In fact Mitt Romney had shown them the green light. Noone can do anything if this is done legally and it is high time that educated Nepali youngsters got together to put forward anti national ideas which could benefit the 90% citizens of Nepal. This is serious!. Vote for USA of Vote for India in such a referendum. Anything that is better for this 90% of Nepalese, is worth it for giving up this concept of independent  Nepal. If being a lengdup dorje is beneficial to this 90%, long live lengdup dorje and his shenanigans!

freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 2:53 PM

Ur Head is Messed up and Ur heart is cold ! Where is ur patriotism dead? or Sold ???

helpnep · Apr 30, 2013 3:16 PM

It seems like there are two types of Nepalis. The first kind has a constant need to feel connected to something to feel important. So they will connect themselves to their caste, nationality and national pride. The second kind have been sort of liberated, if you will, to see a broader picture of life. This is what I have seen in many discussions about being Nepali.

rethink · Apr 30, 2013 3:32 PM

Really good read: http://nepalitimes.com/blogs/k... "The favorite Nepali past-time is not to gamble at cards, it is to find nasty things to say about each other. Of course, not all Nepalis are like that but the loudest, most privileged, best educated and most well off among us just can’t bear to see fellow-Nepalis get ahead."

snurp · Apr 30, 2013 4:14 PM

@giordano, am not trying to change your view. Sorry if I sounded so, I was infact hoping for goodness in the quality of Nepalese people's life. And, for me, it seems at the moment, only merger could solve this crisis. There was no Nepal, when Buddha was born, and there was no Nepal when Mt Everest stood tall during all these Earth's geographical changes which took place eons ago. I simply don't understand what all this drama is for. Probably, it's the media hogwash who deliberately played songs and videos of how dearly their land is to them. Thats how they do it in China, thats how they do it in North Korea, India and Nepal and so many others. I don't blame you. I just think little out of the box. Feel sorry for them who are still in it. @rethink, you hit the nail, thanks for great and pinpoint analysis. @nepaluk, I don't know if I should call few of these braindead trolls, actually 'braindead' but the bitter reality of todays' world is that majority of the population of Earth are such, ...no wonder there is no peace on Earth. It's cause of such brainwashed bunch, there are wars and violences everywhere who would kill/die for the sake of invisible fake beliefs or for their own selfishness. I feel regret instead of getting angered at, when I read their limited mental capacity to think and how they express.

bittertruth · Apr 30, 2013 4:14 PM

 dolphin who are you kidding that things are not bad? part of it is you are in denial about how bad things really are in Nepal for all the people less privileged than you. Why do you see a constant unending line of Nepali men and women standing to get an opportunity to work abroad? why do you see so many nepalese kids going abroad? why do you see people filing for residency in foreign land? if things had been an ounce better then people should have been flocking back. The reality is things are not better for anyone in Nepal, people have now accepted this dishearteningly dire situation as the new norm. As soon as the small percentage of privileged people get into their gated compounds and in the security of their homes they forget about the gloomy existence of the world outside that most people are facing everyday. 

chaurey · Apr 30, 2013 4:32 PM

 Most of people who are barking here about indian takeover should be working in indian resturant or dhoti's gas station. Common guys, we get paid because of your hard work, you are not required to be indian bootlicker. Have little self respect and respect your work. How can you people write such an idiotic crap like nepal should be annexed by india or china or america? Looks like you people are okay to sell your mom or sister to anyone if you get something better. Or selling your ass hole for money to your dhoti masters. What is that bullcrap land and mom are not same? For many people motherland is still like your mom. Have you guys ever been to darjeeling or deharadun or even sikkim? How well is the living condition of people of nepali origin and their takepart in the politics and policy making level? Do you guys prefer being a slave who entertains all the worldy means of entertainment, luxury etc? I don't blame anyone for writing such a bullcrap. We are being purposedly driven to write such lines by our leaders funded by india or some other countries. And they are getting successful on that. I clearly forsee India is not going to takeover nepal. All india wants is a fully puppet Nepal, full control over defense, foreign policy, and all the resources. Even if india takes over, somehow, Nepal will be a hell like Afghanistan and she will be a pain in the hairy dhoti ass coz many people will still chose to die as nepali than being an indian.   I recently went back home and found things have improved quite a bit except the law and order. If i am not wrong this utter chaos will not last longer if we have a few good and visionary leaders. So wait, do not panic. If educated and learned people like us start thinking like this we'll be getting nowhere even if we are annexed to usa or japan. Coz it's fugitivism. Stop being losers folks. REMEMBER MANY PEOPLE IN SIKKIM SAY " SIKKIM KO SUKHA BHANDA BIHAR KO SWOTANTRATA RAMRO"    Last edited: 30-Apr-13 04:56 PM

Ghorlekabo · Apr 30, 2013 4:52 PM

 Situation of Nepal is getting worse everyday due to corrupt politicians. Sometimes I feel like Nepal will be better off as an Indian territory. What do you thik? To validate your statement could you provide me some supporting evidence, please? In the beginning I though you may be right, then I decided to check wheather Nepal is really getting worse or not I found evidence which contradict your claim.  data no. 1 Trasparancy international's corruption index China ---------------------China is getting worse in corruption ranking in last 5 yrs In 2008-----70 in 2011------75 in 2012------80 India ------------------has remained almost same in last 5 yrs in 2008-----96 in 2011-----95 in 2012-----94 Nepal ---------Has remained almost same  in last 5 yrs in 2008----138 in 2011----154 in 2012----139 Compared to India our ranking is not good but India has not made any progress either.  If Indians start to think the way you think may be they will say "because of corrupt politicians India is getting worse everyday may be they are better off a Chinese territory. Just a reminder, China thinks Arunachal Pradesh is a Chinese territory  Last edited: 30-Apr-13 07:52 PM

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 4:52 PM

 As it is, India will not let Nepal develop. If Nepal develops, Nepal will automatically incline towards China, which they don't want. 1) India started the Maoist war 2) India started the Madhes movement and started handing out citizenships to Biharis, Bangalis and Pakistanis 3) India is trying to incite racial violence in Nepal by instigating Janajatis, Tharus and Madhesis. 4) India doesn't facilitate trade with Nepal in anyway and always slaps two way tarrifs on Nepali exports.  India's long term goal is to capture Nepal's resources and make it a huge market for Indian goods.  I think Nepal should join the Indian Union as well. In today's globalized society, country and nationalism have no value. The only thing that matters in capital and resources. 

hakim_saab · Apr 30, 2013 4:58 PM

 Now Google transparecy index Google transparency report 2013: find out what the world's governments want to know about you from 2009-2012 Country         Removal request             %complied      user account specified China               4                                      50                                4 India                 652                                   44                               4560 Nepal                 1                                    100                                 4 ( not that bad ha?)

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 4:59 PM

 Decline in Poverty : Progress in Nepal and India is almost similar

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 5:05 PM

 Now some comparision from CIA website population below poverty India--------29.8 Nepal------25.2 Life expectency India--67.4 Nepal---66.51 Death rate India---7.43 deaths/1,000 population (July 2012 est.) Nepal--6.75 Maternal mortality rate India--200 deaths/1,00,000 live birth Nepal--170 deaths/1,00,000 Birth rate  India----20.6 birth/1000 population Nepal--21.85 Underwight childern (under the age of 5) India--43.50 Nepal--29.10 I know Indians has progressed a lot but the progress is not reflected in the quality of life of its people as a whole , so why become Indian trritory? I dont see any logic

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 5:26 PM

Do remember that indian population is almost 1.3 billion so there is no comparison with Nepal at just 2-3 crores. They have done leaps and bounds better if you consider their population. Being part of India as a state is not being India itself as each state have their own resources and strategies. A state with less than 3 crore population would fare much better than other states. Nepal as a state would  just need the money that India will have to offer and could possibly even be lending money to other states in 20 years. There is a huge potential in Nepal but we need heaps and heaps of investment and also being landlocked has put us at a great disadvantage. Nepal thus could become the hongkong of India. the possibility is there, the potential is there. I am all for this merger. I mean of course i prefer USA foremost. :)

freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 5:30 PM

 Now How indian are spending their money, again from CIA website Healthcare India---4.10% of GDP Nepal---5.5% Education India ---3.3% of GDP Nepal--4.7% of GDP School life expectency( primary to tertairy education India Male--11 yrs Female--10 yrs Nepal Male--10 yrs Female 8 yrs Not a impressive difference ha ? So where does the money goes in India ??? still wanna join India??

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 5:36 PM

 And Most Imortant thing to remember India started its developmental activities long ago Nepal started only after 1950  And still data are very similar, is thta considered imrressive development? economical growth is not reflected in wlfare of its people so so me the money India ? I think many people here in sajha are not familier with the word  "verification". 

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 5:40 PM

अब आफ्नी आमा नराम्री बुडी भइन भनेर छिमेकी लै आमा भन्न जाने , घर मा ढिडो पाक्यो भनेर छिमेकी lai आफ्नो घर मुली बनाउने भात खान लाई..यो त भएन नि हो...अब जे छ जसो छ तेही घर मा ढिडो खाएर केहि गर्नु पर्छ जस्तो लग्छ है मलाई ...

Persident of Nepal · Apr 30, 2013 6:24 PM

no_more_crush · Apr 30, 2013 7:01 PM

___ bro seems to live in an imaginary world where Nepal is doing much better than India. Nepal, and not India, is on its way to become the biggest, or among the biggest economies, of the world. Sadly, there is no "N" in BRICs.....sob....sob.....though there are a few Ns in Nonsense...

freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 7:10 PM

Fareed Zakaria presented a prograam on Poverty Reductuin on CNN on April 27 2013. He used data from World Bank. According to his presenttation In 1980 in china-- Roughly 800 million chines lived in poverty In India-----------429 million lived in poverty In 2010 China---- roughly 140 chinese lived in poverty India-------------approximately 400 million Indian lived in poverty dont get baffled by statistical number here absolute value is very alarming First Modern University of India was established in 1857  First University in Nepal was established in 1959 almost 100 yrs later with the help of India still literacy  in India is 61% and in Nepal it is 60.3% Can you guys see some serious problem here ? and ppl still want to be territory of India  Some more data "Intelligent" people India ------ 0.9 bed/1000 ppl Nepal------ 5 bed/1000 ppl I understand there may be difference in quality of treatment available , but since when India started her  modern Hoispitals and when did nepal started her?? Rome was not built in a day  If you still impressed by India then please become Indian citizen but please dont come in sajha start some threads without any homework. Know the subject before starting a thread

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 7:14 PM

Ok boss. Nepal is the economic power of the future because Rome was not built in a day. Huncha hajur makes sense.

freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 7:20 PM

 Freedom, I am not saying anyhting. and those data not collected by me. from website of CIA and world bank.  so, according to you should we ignore data? IPpl from world bank are fool? Literacy rate indicator between nepal and india has no meaning ? high percentage of underwight child in India is the Indicator of prosperity in India?  some more reality  GDP India ------------4711 GDP Japan-----------4617 GDP Netherlands---714 GDP Denmark-------210 GDP FInland---------198 GDP Norway--------278 So based on GDP ppl will start immigrating to India from japan and Nordic countries no ?  Last edited: 30-Apr-13 07:28 PM

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 7:26 PM

How can you even think of that?? Duh..do not call yourself educated person. Long live Nepal and Nepalese !! Pople like Freedom, bittertruth, Nepaluk (really??) , why don't you people join Nepalese politics and use your education and vision to uplift nepal? We all will support you.  Well done _________ bro. You probably shut them up now. In Global Hunger Index India is worse than Nepal ( GHI 23 Vs 20 ) How can  a nation that's already going through severe hunger can feed millions of hungry people of other country?  How many of you strognly believe India will be a single  nation in future? Do you know there are so many separatist groups that want to alienate themselves from union of India Whatever and however they brag of themselves, India is still a [Disallowed String for - bad word]ed up country. At least people do not live under a drum or in railway platform in Nepal.

Nalapani · Apr 30, 2013 7:53 PM

 Freedom, India giving money to Nepal as a state when Nepal becomes its trritrory?? You must be living in a world of dream my friend. again look what world bank is saying Look How unequal are Bihar and UP. if Indian federal government have enough money they could have donwe with UP and Bihar. They have given money to those states a bit but that is not enoufgh to bring them up to the par. Ignore all data, Ignore all facts and live in the world of fantasy my friend. May be you nguys are suffering from "Other side of the fence is always green syndrom"

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 8:00 PM

 Freedom some more data, I know you love to ignore the data but any way   Calory consumption per capita (2006) China--------------2970 India---------------2300 Nepal-------------2350 Pakistan---------2250 Bangladesh-----2250 Sri lanka---------2390 But I know these data means nothing you have your own fantasy world

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 8:09 PM

 now about public safety Homicide rate nepal-----------------2.8 India------------------3.5 China-----------------1 Sri lanka-------------3.6 Bangladesh---------2.7 Pakistan--------------7.8 Rape in 2006 Nepal-----------------------210 India------------------------19348 Bangladesh--------------11682

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 8:20 PM

well written _________. these traitors think Nepal should be part of india just because 1 kg of rice is Rs. 100. do these fools have any idea about inflation and how it has affected part of south Asia including Nepal and india. do these fools have any clue that inflation is india is as worse as in Nepal. I would probably beat these murther[Disallowed String for - bad word]ers to death if this conversation would have been in person with me. what a waste of space on this earth. go phucking kill yourself, you all murther[Disallowed String for - bad word]ing pimps.

dolphin · Apr 30, 2013 8:37 PM

 Some more data for ppl living in fantasy world

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 8:46 PM

 look at the data of ppl for open defecate And Now My question is --All asbove data collected by WHO, World bank, UN, UNCEF fales,?? If Politicians in India were  better then Nepal why Data shows otherwise?? I dont see Life in India  any better than Nepal. Development was introduced in India   almost 100 years before nepal. Nepal was living  in dark age but how come data collected by independent body shows surprising similarities? Yes our politicians are not good, yes we are poor, yes we have problems  But is India any better than us ? data says no, and still ppl want Nepal to be Indian territory may be that is called " "मानसिक दरिद्रता " Last edited: 30-Apr-13 08:56 PM

_____ · Apr 30, 2013 8:55 PM

 lol @ bittertruth....think out of box re.... The people who wants nepal to invade by others are loosers....afule garna sakena ani arule aayera gardiyos vanera sochne.... Jai NEPAL

giordano · Apr 30, 2013 9:12 PM

You have to remember the population of India 1.3 billion, despite that she is part of BRICs nation. If Nepal becomes part of India, a lot of money will be poured in by indian investors. Nepal will get access to all the resources of India. You seem to be unable to differentiate between a state and a country. How many of those open defecation is done by say people of Sikkim?. How many malnourished in Sikkim?. How many homicide in Sikkim?. Here I am talking about economic success and there you are talking about defecation. Are all your posts also part of that defecation?. Also take note Nepal rupees pegged at 1.60 to indian rupees is only beneficial to Nepal. If India did not agree to that, imagine what would happen to Nepal when indian economy is among the top.

freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 9:26 PM

And that phrase "Rome was not built in a day" is a magical one because Prachanda's relatives will be using this phrase 200 years later. See this phrase has no timeframe attached and this has become sort of a prostitute of phrases, making it a timeless for politicians.

freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 9:30 PM

 Freedom Where did you visit in Sikkim?  Do you think Sikkim is way better than Nepal? Proabably you visited Gangtok which is a small but beautiful hill station. What about BUSTI ? Have you lately visited Ilam? Life is not bad in Ilam either.  Cash crops like aduwa, alaichi, kucho, milk etc have revolutionized and metamorphosized people's life in Ilam. IMO, rural Ilam or jhapa is better than rural Sikkim. And cities in sikkim like Gangtok, Singtam, Geyzing, Namchi, etc are not different than mid sized nepalese eastern nepalse towns like Dhulabari, Birtamode, Ilam or dharan.  Please do not try to show sikkim as way better than Nepal. I know many Sikkimese migrating to eastern Nepal being from that place, FYI: My mawal is in Sikkim so visited and stayed there so many times for months and visited many remote places too in northern sikkim which is no different than Manag or mustang. Do you think Sikkimese are better than manage, mustange or Solulhumbe etc? Yeah, they are definitely better than people in western Nepal. BTW where did you go in Sikkim?? Last edited: 30-Apr-13 10:40 PM Last edited: 30-Apr-13 10:53 PM

NALAPANI · Apr 30, 2013 10:38 PM

 PS: Sikkim too has many slums. People collect firewood from teesta and rangit in the rainy season risking their lives. Is that sign of some prosperous place? So please do not play sikkim as your trumpcard.

NALAPANI · Apr 30, 2013 10:44 PM

lolz @ nalapani, did i use sikkim as an economic trumpcard?. Of course Nepal is more beautiful without any doubt. I meant to use Sikkim to highlight the fact that they are not malnourished there, good law and order, did not see anyone defecate openly there. More to highlight that a state can fix itself. Of course I love Nepal. Is it wrong to think of a better economic pathway for Nepal?. I am not anti-national my friend. I am pro human and i it is wrong that 90% Nepalese still suffer. For a country with a mere 2-3 crore people, there is simply no excuse for this. The only reason why Nepal is like this is because we have failed as a country. What is use of being independent when all politicians head to Delhi?. Is Delhi in NEpal?. Honestly ask yourself, isnt Nepal one farce of a country?. Do you know the meaning of sovereignty?. Once you lose this, you lose independence.

freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 10:57 PM

@giordano, garna sakena hoina , garna diye po. lol..  btw, it's not looser, ...it's loser :D You can call me 'loser' :D

bittertruth · Apr 30, 2013 10:59 PM

 How do you know? I've seen people defecating at the banks of Rangeet and teesta and their confluence LOL!!! (Can you tell where they meet, BTW?? I can tell you if you want) Please do not try to teach me about sovereignty and all that mumbo jumbo. I do not want to argue with you about that (That does not mean, I can't though). India has the hugest gap between rural and urban life in the world. Is india all about Delhi, Mumbai, Banglore or as portrayed in melodramatic and pretentious Bollywood??? Real india is rural india which is no better than rural Nepal. Common dude India is 1 Km away from my hometown and we are helping thousands of Indian beggars survive everyday. If you theorize those hapless beggars as not "human-enough" than Delhi or Mumbai people I am done discussing with you. You are talking like India is Switzerland.  Seeing is more beleiving my friend. Last edited: 30-Apr-13 11:18 PM Last edited: 30-Apr-13 11:22 PM

NALAPANI · Apr 30, 2013 11:12 PM

 @bittertruth yesta ta chan ani yetra ko desh bikash hunthyo ani aru ko khutta samatera lau mero desh banaide vanyo....lemme ask you sth...u said garna diyo po? what have you tried to do for your country and kasle garna diyena????

giordano · Apr 30, 2013 11:36 PM

 Hate to disrespect any mom in the world. But something popped up in my mind. All these AJASU who are dying to be a dhoti should have come to this world by in vitro fertilization. AND SPERM DONATED BY NONE OTHER THAN LENDUP DORJE....BUHAHAHAA..........

ghorlekabo · Apr 30, 2013 11:42 PM

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freedom2012 · Apr 30, 2013 11:49 PM

 LOL !! So you came down to pulling leg, huh?? Why don't you stop posting? Sometimes assuming silence is way powerful/better than ranting all the nonesens. Common mate, do you think that can be a hobby? You can still see while travelling via road, can't you? BTW: Sikkim does not have anything to be bragged about 1. No airport ( small helipad is there) 2. No railway 3. No very good highway ( once, I stuck 15 days because of landslide at place named 20 (Bees) mile because there was no alternate road down to siliguri.) Road to Ilam is better. 3. No big hospital 4. No University (Manipal established few years back,and I doubt it offers diverse courses) 5. No very good public transportation (There is SNT (Sikkim nationalized transportation) for poor people, rich people travel in public Mahindra Commander or spacio, LOL) Yes, homes are beautiful. Wooden one storied, adorned with flowers.  I know how it feels when your ego is hurt. Chill mate. This is my last post for you. Think before posting anything.

nALAPANI · May 1, 2013 12:11 AM

I did not want to write anything in this thread, but some of the comments are so irritating that i could not stop myself. Keeping aside the question of whether you put some value on being a citizen of independent country or not (BTW, the idea of Global Citizen is completely different, i am for it if nobody is discriminated in any way in any country- so the ideal situation will be no need of passport and visa to travel around, just an ID), most of the time the countries may benefit by forming a union. That may be proved using a theoretical model, but you can't test  the theory using modern time data anymore as countries are disintegrating.  For those who are using example of Sikkim ( and himachal ?) etc, look at Indian states such as Jharkhand and Assam which are almost as big as Nepal interms of population. You can not dream of restricting the flow of Biharis and UPians as does Sikkim once you become an Indian state. State of Nepal will not be in a position as is Sikkim, because we already have almost 40% (?) people from madesh origin. Do'nt tell people that Nepal will become a hill station like Darjeeling and himachal pradesh, they were established during British Raj. All you can expect is that you will have to fight with cunning bihari and upians to keep you alive.

nepalilaure · May 1, 2013 12:29 AM

@giordano, lol.. you'll remember my words one day :D EOD

bittertruth · May 1, 2013 12:42 AM

 @bittertruth well u'll proud to be nepalese oneday

giordano · May 1, 2013 12:48 AM

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freedom2012 · May 1, 2013 12:52 AM

Guys, If a mere insignificant post flares tempers to such extent that we start humiliating one another and none other than our own fellow Nepalese, we should be ashamed of calling ourselves educated individuals. The original poster has long disappeared and the onlookers find it ludicrous that you guys are keeping on bickering, it only tells us one thing, we are no better than those Maoists who fly off the handle turn aggressive without a convincing cause. Agreed, our Nepali pride is unparalleled, our condition love for our nation is sky high and our patriotism is beyond bounds, but there are times we need to pause and listen thoughtfully to the fellow posters before escalating our blood pressures. Evidently the term ‘India’ is a taboo among us Nepalese, we all know that. Whether or not a person of Kerala or Manipur is aware of the Indian hegemony over Nepal, we are quick to point a finger that a ‘dhoti’ is more than eager to take our land away. Whether or not that is a puerile judgement, I do not know. However, people who used foul languages and called a fellow Nepalese a slave just because his ideas were different than them makes me cringe. Please understand that just because an anonymous poster ‘wonders’ if Nepal could have been better if it were a part of India, or Thailand or Australia for that matter it doesn’t mean he is unpatriotic, it was a mere question, not a decree. Now, what bothers me the more is some individuals relentlessly keep somersaulting back in the thread with their five minute research when they could have left long time ago and saved the day. But what bothers me MOST is some individuals replying on the same thread with multiple usernames just because they cannot prove their point effectively with one pseudonym. That is taking the argument to a different level and playing with others’ sentiments. That just smells, even from a troll’s standpoint. You know exactly who I am talking about. Insecurity, narcissism, personality disorder maybe? No disrespect for that individual, but I do not see a value in doing so. I hate to bring this up, but there was a user with multiple nicknames in some time ago and his tenure in sajha didn’t end well. I hate to see that happen again to a fellow sajhaite. It is a free site, we all know, but if someone keeps posting in every single thread and with multiple usernames, it gets a little creepy, even when he or she is not aggressive. Further, it mars his/her credibility as a poster and integrity as a visitor as a whole. My two cents: Let it go, it already has been a long night, and we all hate to read the rant of the same individual over and over again. With this note, I’d like to say goodnight, I will never reply on this thread anymore. Time to curse me now??

behoove_me · May 1, 2013 1:14 AM

 Summary Some data from World development indicator 2013, from World Bank   India Nepal Comment 1990 2011 1990 2011 Under five mortality rate 114 61 135 48 Who is doing better? Infant mortality rate 81 47 94 39 Access to improved sanitation facility in % 18 34 10 31 Male Female Male Female Adult mortality rate/1000 between 2006-11) 251 164 75 56 Dramatic difference 2010 2010 Maternal mortality rate/10k live births 200 170 See the difference Incident of tuberculosis/10 k population 181 163 Who is doing better? Contraceptive prevalence rate for married women (15 -49) 45 55 24 50 Whose progress is impressive? Women in parliament (% of total seats) 5 11 6 33 Last edited: 01-May-13 08:41 AM

_____ · May 1, 2013 8:22 AM

  Pregnant women receiving parental care   75   58 Here India excels Life expectancy at birth (female)   68   70 Lol Life expectancy at birth (male)   64   68 Lol   2005 2010 2004 2011   Population below national poverty line 37.2 29.8 30.9 25.2     2010     2010   Population below 1.25 $ a day 32.7     24.8 Better than India ha? Population below 2 $ a day 68.7     57.3 10 points better than Health expenditure % of GDP   3.9   5.4   Hospital beds per 1K population   NA   5     2006-11 2006-11   Low birth weight babies 28 18   Consumption of Iodized salt 71    

_____ · May 1, 2013 8:25 AM

underscore _____ The amount of copy and paste job you have done is absurd here. All I was doing was musing about whether Nepalis would be better off as far as corrupt politicians if it was an Indian territory. I said India because it's the closest neighbor and they seem to be minding our business all the time. If I was to wish anyone to take over Nepal then I would find out about the indexes you were so generously copy pasting and choose the best country in the world, but that would be wishful thinking. Imagine I had said the best country (according to you copy paste indexes) should take over Nepal because too many Nepalese people are suffering, then what would be your answer? Forget about india ok? It seems like you are supporting Nepal being taken over by another country that is better off.   Last edited: 01-May-13 09:06 AM

nepaluk · May 1, 2013 8:48 AM

 Nepaluk, I also thought so in the beginning but when you went on saying “ But as a practical person, if someone ask what you are proud of then there is no achievement or anything else you can say besides the overused mountain and the Buddha.” And “Perhaps instead of holding on to the hollow pride, we can move on as a whole and accept the truth and the reality that Nepal is a failed state created by the greed of politicians who mostly come from poor underprivileged upbringing and continue the cycle of the never-ending downward spiral.” Then again you replied to dolphin saying  “I am not restricted by any borders in my head and I feel sorry for narrow minded people like you who can't think beyond their own restrictive borders in your brain that somebody else have set for you.” which implies directly or indirectly how great you are and how minuscule others who do not agree with your perception All these replies indicate you were serious about your thread and it was not just musing around, then only I decided to post But now when I loaded the thread with facts you again came in and post “just musing around” My friend, what if I too say “hey nepaluk, I too was just teasing you. thought thread was not worth writing something by myself so had to copy and paste facts from other sources till you come out of your cubicle” And you did my friend You see ppl can answer many ways. And why my pasting is absurd for you?  Just happy reading own posting or what? “Imagine I had said the best country (according to you copy paste indexes) should take over Nepal because too many Nepalese people are suffering, then what would be your answer? Forget about India ok?” Lol, that is a hypothetical question, you haven’t asked yet, just imagination. I will answer when you ask “It seems like you are supporting Nepal being taken over by another country that is better off.” You assume too much man, don’t be so assumptive You stressed so much on Nepal “not achieving” and “corrupt politicians” but you missed the fact that if compared, India also “hasn’t achieved”. And politicians there too are corrupt.  Last edited: 01-May-13 10:06 AM

_____ · May 1, 2013 9:39 AM

underscore _______ If you go back and look at the first post, I was 'wondering' how it would affect corruption if Nepal was a Indian territory, that was a musing unless you will now convert the definition of musing with your cut and paste proofs. But later as I saw people posting different opinions I posted my opinion about how the situation of Nepal sucks big time and that borders are man made and I don't justify restrictive ideologies and false pride on objects. My response in no way gave any importance to India after the initial musing. But it seems like you are hell bent on taking my musings to a level of paranoia that you are hell bent on proving when the world knows how poor India is as a whole as far as the slums and poverty. Mr cut paste warrior, we know how India sucks ok? If I really wanted Nepal to be taken over, then I would have wanted it to be take over by the best country in the world. So in your expert opinion, would Nepal be better off it was taken over by the best country in the world?

nepaluk · May 1, 2013 10:12 AM

 Freedom, I was just clearing some of the misunderstanding you have about Sikkim since you were trying to show Sikkim like switzerland. To add more, Sikkim does not have industries (except Rangpo based Sikkim Distillery). Majority of population is still dependent on traditional agriculture. So, how can you claim Sikkim is way better than Nepal? Yes, you are right Law and order is good. We were also not bad few years ago and I don't think this lawlessness will last forever.  OK, I admit India is a great nation, probably super power of future. But still I do not see merging to India as a workable solution. We do not need to annex to india to be next Sikkim. No huge difference between Sikkim and Nepal as per my observation. Even if I agree with you as Sikkim is a great great place, I see more chance of Nepal being next Kashmir after annexation to union of india, not Sikkim. This is not hypothesis my friend, it's reality. Do you think  level of consciousness of Nepalese people is same as Sikkimese back in 70's?  Have a good day! Last edited: 01-May-13 10:20 AM Last edited: 01-May-13 10:28 AM

Nalapani · May 1, 2013 10:18 AM

we all know nepal is an insignificant puppet nation that india pulls the strings on, we can sit here and discuss all we want and show our national pride and say we are not their bitch, but in the end are we not? in my opinion, it's almost feels like they have a lasso around our throat that they can  tighten or loosen whenever they feel necessary and we can't do anything about it but say buddha was born in nepal....laughable and sad. 

chaurey · May 1, 2013 10:26 AM

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freedom2012 · May 2, 2013 3:41 AM

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck your anti-nationalism traitor Last edited: 02-May-13 04:30 AM

giordano · May 2, 2013 4:30 AM

no more crush if you are too stupid to figure out how to navigate to different pages of this thread then you are better off not saying anything 

nepaluk · May 2, 2013 6:51 AM