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Posted on 11-04-04 11:00 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nba season started form Tuesday, here's my preseason ranking for each division:

Eastern Conference
Atlantic:
New York Knicks
Philadelphia 76ers
New Jersey Nets
Toronto Raptors
Boston Celtics

Central: :
Indiana Pacers
Detroit Pistons
Cleveland Cavaliers
Milwaukee Bucks
Chicago Bulls

Southeast: :
Orlando Magic
Miami Heat
Washington Wizards
Atlanta Hawks
Charlotte Bobcats

Western Conference
Southwest: :
San Antonio Spurs
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
Memphis Grizzlies
New Orleans Hornets

Northwest: :
Minnesota Timberwolves
Denver Nuggets
Utah Jazz
Portland Trailblazers
Seattle Supersonics

Pacific: :
Phoenix Suns
Sacramento Kings
Los Angeles Lakers
Los Angeles Clippers
Golden State Warriors

 
Posted on 04-05-05 3:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The regular season MVP should go to........drrrrrrum roll!!!


Stevie Nash, just for being Canadian. On serious note, he changed the facet of the team and will be getting 20 plus victories compard to last season. You can argue that other players have better stats than him and all BUT he brought an uptempo game that NBA was so craving for..He made game much interesting ....and Look out for numbers for his teamates...all of them are having career games..He should get my mvp, thats my vote!!

Losers and Winners of 'o5 season so far:

Losers:
Lakers and KObe: Obv it isnt working, Lebron is taking over you as the best player in the league. You have to do something!!...It will be lot of shame when Lakers are officially relegated to non playoff team. Shaq must be laughing to death.Wait, even Air Jordan failed to make playoffs twice but he had already lost his air.:)


KG: Same team, a year of prized expierence.Results: Strugglign to make the playoffs...The side role players need to be reshuffled or else..KG will not win anything.

Sixers: AI having a career year and they not winning anything.Geez..you need to feed the ball to AI more, I mean Andre Igoudala. The rok is great.Bad coaching...Webber should be used better

Toronto Raptors: Kicked VInsanity to get nothing, although I doubt if Vince is a winner, I definitely think he is one the most talented players to play the game.Bosh is amazing but sad that they got nothing out of Vince..hopefully they will use their picks better

Honourable mention: Artest and INdy: Iamgine Artest doing defensive job on star players durin the playoffs...gosh...Miller had a chance to win it all.., Knicks..they have the worst GM in the league, its over.

Winners:

Shaq and the Heat or should I say Wade and the Heat: Wade reminds me of KObe Bryant, golden boy..Shaq is getting older but with good players like Wade he has a chance to win it all....Its Wade's game now.

Suns: Stevie NASH, need I say more???

Celtics: Egos aside, differences resolved. Walker is back to push the Celts to contention. This team can be dangerous.

Wizards: After years of losing Washington Warrirors..errr Wizards have finally made it..exicting team.

Bulls: who would have thought? Thats why kid sneed to go to college,,,after 4 years of fooling around baby bulls are doing well..told u , could have gotten a degree by now.

MVP: Nash
Rookie of the Year: Emeka Okafor
Sixth man of the year: Ben Gordon


 
Posted on 04-06-05 5:27 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Did you see the Suns last year...They had basically the same guys they have now with he exception of Nash...and they were downright awful...won 29 games....with that white basterd in there they are on course to win 64-65 games....that is what an MVP does...a true MVP is capable of turning perennial losers into champions...and stats only tell part of the story in his case...he does not need to average 30 points a game to have a profound effect on the game....therein lies the beauty of his game...one predicated on selflessness...in a league full of shoot-happy point guards it is great to see a throwback--a player who is more happy getting 10-15 assists rather than scoring 30 points a game by hoisting 40 shots (i.e. iverson, marbury)...and the thing that is so unique about his playing style is that his teammates see him play so unselfishly and pass and that rubs on on them, so it is no coincidence the team is leading the league in both points per game and assists...

BTW, KG deserved MVP last year even though Indianahad best record as you say...due to the fact that Minnesota was still one of the best teams...but a player whose team is at the bottom of the playoff race does not deserve to get MVP....thats why KG will not win it this year even tho his numbers are comparable to last year...and thats why iverson will not win this year either..

Also, the Golden State Warriors are doing damn good since they added Baron...watch out for these guys next year..
 
Posted on 04-06-05 7:07 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I wouldn't be surprised if Nash wins MVP award. Like Casey said Nash has changed facet of the game. AI is certainly having another great year in his career, being a leading scorer, but look at slump of his team. And yes, Heats are now all about Wade.. Wade is gonna be the next big thing for the Heats after Zo in their franchise history. But, he's lucky to have legendary teammates like Shaq and Zo, who're simply the great center of all time.

Another thing I have been noticing that L. James is over- hyped throughout the season as a MVP contestant but at the same time, look at C. Anthony. Like last year, he couldn't play well in early season because of his sore ankle. Now, his ankle is healing and Denver has won 21 games out of last 23 games ( if I am corret). They have only lost twice with the Suns. G.Karl takes most of the credit; however, healing ankle of Melo is also another reason why they are winning. I am really surprised to see their wins..

"MVP should be given to the Most Valuable Player in the league not based on wins or loss."

Unfortunately, it doesn't happen in NBA:)






 
Posted on 04-06-05 7:08 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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To be honest, I haven't been following any games this season. I haven't watched any complete game this season... :(
 
Posted on 04-06-05 8:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I believe Amare is the reason why Suns are doing so great. This is his only third year in the league and he will get better. Let's not forget Suns also added good SG named Q to team up with Steve Nash. Suns got many firepower to win the game w/o Nash. Don't get me wrong, I picked them to win the Pacific division before season started.

Philly still has chance to finish #6 in the Eastern Division. AI3 score more than Nash, bangs harder to board than Nash, steals more than Nash. It's not AI3 fault, he doesn't have a studs like Amare, Marion, Q and JJ playing along side with him. Nash may not even play 2500 total minutes for the season and I don't think they have ever handed the trophy to a player who scored less than 20 PPG.

Here's my list for the MVP

1. Allen Iverson
2. Dirk Nowtizki
2. Amare Stoudamire
2. Dwyane Wade
2. Lebron James
 
Posted on 04-06-05 9:10 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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AI has goddam chris webber on his team...and look how well him and webber work together....they suck as a 1-2 combo...that is because AI is not a TRUE POINT GUARD...he could have amare, marion, etc on his team but they would not be a great team simply due to allen's unwillingness to give up the ball..and I doubt marion or amare would want to play with iverson....shittt, you remember jerry stackhouse and larry hughes, both former teammates of his, were sent packing cause allen didnt know how to play with other stars...he has to be the one to put up all the shots, cuz thats how he is...btw, have you how the suns played in the games nash was not present...amare looked like a lost puppy out there...in fact, they lost all but 1 game when nash was absent..
 
Posted on 04-06-05 9:52 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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CWEBB have been with the team only for a month and he is out due to injury now. I believe they played good and could play better in future.

Stack and AI3 plays the same type of player so they gotta get rid of one them. and it's no brainer. Larry Hughes? he was not even a full time player when he played with 76ers. They got Toni Kukoc for Larry Hughes. Toni played great for 76ers. If Larry didn't have the season he is having this year, you wouldn't even mentioned his name. He is a mediocore player before this season.

I believe Suns won more than ONE game in absence of Nash. I have to check on that. Nash may have a leader quality in him but that doesn't mean he is the best player in his team. Amare leads his team in PPG, Rebounds, and Block shots and he has more steal than Nash.

Here's what NBC sports wiseguys think of MVP rae. AI3 is outta race.... lol
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4401763/

 
Posted on 04-06-05 11:05 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Marion leads the team in rebounds....and Hunter is the best on the team in blocked shots....at least get your facts right before posting..this leads me to believe you have not even seen a suns game this year...and how can you expect a point guard to lead the team in rebounds and blocks??....also, if a point guard leads his team in scoring then he is not doing his job--which is to distribute the ball and get teammates involved...Nash is averaging 11.5 assists this year--most since the legendary John Stockton...if you had seen their games you would realize that he basically spoonfeeds Stoudemire and Marion for easy dunks due to the fact that they really dont have go-to moves of their own...In fact, when Nash went out this year, Stoudemire's point per game average went down from 26 to 16....how can you disregard this point...Also, the team's scoring average went from 110 to 92 in his absence..and then remember he is the one that sets up their three point shooters such as Quentin Richardson and Joe Johnson...he is undoubtably the heart and soul of that team..

On another note, the only players who can play with iverson are bums like Eric Snow and Aaron McKie who just stand around and watch him on offense...and every once in a while they get a touch or so...If Andre Iguodala was playing on another team he would be averaging at least 15 pts per game...Iverson dominates the ball too much.l..that being said, he is my favorite player--just cause the nigga is 6 foot tall and is so damn talented...but in no way should he be MVP this year
 
Posted on 04-06-05 12:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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lol. Yes Marion leads the suns in reb dept. and who is this dude called Hunter.

Amare was scoring 20+ even before Nash came in. He will score more next year with or without Steve Nash. He is the next big monster in the middle. According to NBC sports, we both are outta race lol . Nash wasn't even mentioned there :)

Nash has 4 other players who avg more than 15 ppg. I dunno how you can consider him for the MVP :s Suns duo of Amare and Nash is like stockton and mailman. like Stockton he will never win MVP.

who was the last player who won the MVP and led the league in assists?

 
Posted on 04-06-05 12:33 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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LOL... AI is out from MVP race.. however, I like this guy. I wish CWebber would be healthy...
 
Posted on 04-06-05 12:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Rusty here's the quote from your fav knicks player

Stephon Marbury: "When in doubt, shoot. That's how I look at it."

:=)
 
Posted on 04-06-05 1:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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AX,
These days, two words get along very well: Knicks and Sux. I saw somebody wrote about Knicks management and I. Thomos. This team has a couple of talents but they really need to be reconfugred. Why couldn't they buy Vince Carter when he was available. He ended up joining whacky team- the nets. I would say, trade all players, including Marbury. Only true knicks i can think of is K. Thomos. I don't know what is going on with Houston, who has occupied great deal of the knicks salary cap, I belive.

"Amare was scoring 20+ even before Nash came in." Yes, he was scoring 20+, but how effective was it for the season and franchise record, how many wins did Suns get last year and year before? You simply cannot ignore restless effort of Nash... Nash's main focus is to pass the ball, coordinate the team members, rather than scoring himself. Well, most of the point guards do that. But, remember he's a leader in Assist. To answer your another question, yes, players who have scored less than 20 pts have become MVP in NBA history. I cannot think of the name on top of my head.


 
Posted on 04-06-05 1:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Rusty, i agree they played terribly. We know the reason, your fav player Stephon "i am the best PG" Marbury was not happy with the team and we know where ended up after that. A year before they made the playoffs. That's the reason I say he might be a great leader but ain't worthy of a MVP.

Let Amare have 2-3 years more in his belt, he would become great player. Dude is so amazing and he jumped high school to NBA :s

MVP should go the best player in the league. and I am sure we both agree AI3 is that player :p

Rusty bro, there are very few players who won the MVP playing PG position. Magic may be one of them and we may have to go back to 50s to get the answer and i believe he scored more than 20
 
Posted on 04-06-05 6:16 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"Rusty bro, there are very few players who won the MVP playing PG position. "

I don't know if you read that article from the above link..

Nash's average of 11.5 assists a game is the highest in the NBA since John Stockton of the Utah Jazz averaged 12.3 during the 1994-95 season. Nash averages only 16.3 points a game, which would be the third-lowest scoring average of any MVP (Wes Unseld of Baltimore averaged 13.8 in 1968-69 and Bill Russell of Boston averaged 14.1 in 1964-65).

If Nash wins, he will join Bob Cousy, Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson as the only point guards to do so. (Philadelphia's Allen Iverson played shooting guard when he won it in 2001.)

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2005-04-04-duprees-awards_x.htm




 
Posted on 04-06-05 8:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I read the article and also confirmed their score was less than 17 PPG. I learned something new from it that the Wes won his MVP in his rookie year :p But have you realized they won those trophies before even we were born LOL. That's why i say Nash has ZERO chance to bag the award. Let's see if he can crack top 5 ;)

The Q i asked was "who was the last player who won the MVP and led the league in assists?"
if i have to guess it would Magic Johnson if not Big O.
 
Posted on 04-10-05 2:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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MVP doesnt mean best scorer...Jason Kidd almost won it several years ago averaging around 14 when he turned around the Nets...He came in second in voting to Tim Duncan that year....

MVP doesnt mean most talented player...or you could give it to Kevin Garnett each year..

MVP is player most valuable to the success that team is having in a particular season...So MVP is either Nash or Shaq this year..

This is reflected in the turnarounds both teams have experienced since the additions of the aformentioned potential MVP's...

As far as statistics, the players having the best seasons are Allen Iverson and Lebron James...but their teams suck...so their numbers are meaningless.


 
Posted on 04-10-05 9:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Major League Baseball should hire you methodman :)
 
Posted on 04-22-05 8:55 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The championship round of fantasy NBA 04/05:


 
Posted on 04-22-05 8:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Regular Season Standing:


 
Posted on 04-22-05 1:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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cant decide ALlen or Lebron but damn lebron's team is out so definately allen
goo allen
also Wade is better than Shaq. Why do they always choose shaq???
he's the reason why heat's on playoffs
wade better than shaq!!!
 



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