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Posted on 04-05-12 10:00 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Why NRNs are adamant about dual citizenship when India and China are prospering without dual citizenship granted to NRIs and NRCs returning to their country? They just allow residency. 
Does these NRN wanted to capture all government jobs? Aren't there lots of other areas to develop in Nepal? Do they want to be a politician one day?

kukur ko puchar 12 barsa samma dhunga ma rekhe pani bangai bhaneko yehi ho.

http://www.indianembassy.org/consular/OCI_Jan92006/OCI.html

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/ywzn/lsyw/vpna/faq/t710012.htm
 
 


The Public Relations Committee of Nepalese Association in Southeast America (NASeA) 
would like to invite you All to the April 8, 2012 Monthly Talk Session over the phone (Free Conference Call) 



The theme of this month’s talk session is:
Emergences and Challenges of Worldwide Non-Resident Nepalese to Obtain Dual Citizenship and Struggles in Various Issues of Livelihood  with Jiba Lamichhane 


Non-Resident Nepalese (NRN) President
The theme of this month’s talk session is:
Emergences and Challenges of Worldwide Non-Resident Nepalese to Obtain Dual Citizenship and Struggles in Various Issues of Livelihood
 
Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012
Time: 11 AM Eastern Time 

  
Venue: Conference Call
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Posted on 04-06-12 3:32 PM     [Snapshot: 1239]     Reply [Subscribe]
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khutta tanne bani kahile najani bho...
i dont think a country like Nepal sud have any problem with dual citizenship...give me a good reason why not!!!   i dont know why u retard is repeating the example of china 'n india...'n why u tryin to connect NRs with china 'n india's development..thats ignorant...
hami sanga visa fee liyera desh dhani hune pani hoina, TIA safa hune pani hoina ha ha ha
i've traveled around the world 'n majority of countries does not require visa for US citizens tara afnai birthplace auna lai visa linu parcha
'n its a shame...passport ma Country of origin: Nepal cha
its all jealosy coming out of u MNO! open up ur mind! hami pani nepali nai hau...'n i dont see no reason for why not
hamro thau ma afo lai rakhera hera na ekchoti...US lai Kathmandu ra Nepal lai timi ayeko, timro babu ama ajhai basne gaun samjha ta :)






 
Posted on 04-06-12 5:28 PM     [Snapshot: 1356]     Reply [Subscribe]
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When Nepal government announced " Nepali Green Cards" for NRNs, verry few applications were received for the NRN card. This explains that most NRNs do not care about entry/reentry into Nepal crap. These are some of the motives i have observed from NRNs and its supporters.

1. Getting Nepali citizenship for possible state leadership.

2. Saving fixed properties and inheritence from their siblings and relatives. Once Nepali citizen denounces Nepali Citizenship, the government consficates their property.

3. Corrupts of Nepal such as " kala bazari & Chor Neta" want to find a proper channel to transfer their black money into the first world for their children and themselves.

4. There are also few people who want security for their honest earned assets back home and would like to find a way to bring it over to the first world. But they do not really need a dual citizenship to move their assets.

NRN is nothing but ANA on steroid. And most people already know what ANA is all about. It would be stupid to assume NRN doing any good for Nepal and Nepali.

I know it totally makes sense for NRNs to ask for dual citizen but  lets talk about why a Nepali Citizen, who has the power to vote YES or NO to a dual citizenship should Vote for the NRNs with the motivations listed above for dual citizenship? Why should Nepali Citizens fight for NRNs to get the dual citizenship? What is their incentive in it?

I simply do not see any benefit for the country or the countrymen in it. Lets not spread the crap of investment oppurtunity. The richest couple men abroad are already investing in Nepal. Rest of the so called Rich Nepali are worth 1 - 5 million with some gas station ownership and few small businesses. I do  not see any potential in these people to make a slightest impact in Nepali Economy. The risk of losing property for Nepal is higher than what it can get as investment.

 
Posted on 04-06-12 6:28 PM     [Snapshot: 1387]     Reply [Subscribe]
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i favor AGAINST NRNs. if you want to be citizen of nepal, simply keep your citizenship. if you want to be citizen of another country, then the person is rejecting his nepalese citzenship.
it is hard for nepalese to trust a person who have decided to give up his nepali citizesnhip for some other countries.
simply say no to NRNs. they will raise the tax property in nepal and will monopolize busnesss in nepal if granted dual citizesnhip.
in the end, nepalese are the one to suffer not opportunistic NRN individual.



 
Posted on 04-06-12 6:38 PM     [Snapshot: 1383]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Where is there a khuta tanne here? It is all a debate for and against dual citizen. Even if they get dual citizen, I doubt how many will come forward to take ? How many of NRN have that NRN card first before advocating for dual citizen?

American citizen need visa to go to other countries too. Check the net.
NRN card allows 10 years visa so where is the hassle for 10 years? For all other countries with your US citizen, you won't have travel problem. 

FYI Nepal give Bridha Vatta once you reach 65 or 75. Rs 800 a month. You NRN want that? :)



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Posted on 04-06-12 7:35 PM     [Snapshot: 1432]     Reply [Subscribe]
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If we're having a good debate here, I am game. If you just want to bitch, count me out.

So far, other than the point I myself presented against the dual citizenship, I haven't heard one good reason why it shouldn't be allowed.

@sidster, you do make some points. Of the points listed only point 2 applies to the majority who are advocating for dual. If I wanted to run for a leadership position in Nepal, I wouldn't leave Nepal or denounce my citizenship. As for point 2, that's a legit reason. If somebody has inheritance and wants to get dual citizenship, why would it boil your blood for him to be able to claim his property?

American citizen need visa to goto another country. Sure. I will give you a homework. See what it takes to visit Paris with Nepali passport and US passport.
 
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 "U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

Intent can be shown by the person's statements or conduct.The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance."  


you misinterpreted the law. you have to renounce U.S citizenship voluntarly while taking another citizenship. but that is not what dual citizenship mean. dual citizenship does not make you rnounce your other citizenship and that is the whole point. Just by taking another citizenship u won't lose ur U.S citizenship but you have to officially or Intentionally renounce by conduct or legal statement. for eg: u can't except to keep your U.S citizenship and join Nepal Army that conflicts your citizenary rights and responsibilities. according to you once u choose Nepali citizenship u'll automatically lose U.S citizenship which is incorrect. if what u said was right then there wouldn't be millions of American holding other passports in the US , according to you, technically they all have lost their U.S citizenship when they became a dual citizen then. 

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Posted on 04-06-12 8:10 PM     [Snapshot: 1466]     Reply [Subscribe]
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dual is always better.
Just an anology, everywhere 'dual' has always been better.  :)
Get it folks. Let your mind play what I meant.
If they give me dual citizenship, I'll happily go for it :D 
I can own my homes and properties in both countries, isn't it beautiful? 
hahahahhahah I love it, give it to us now ..


 
Posted on 04-06-12 8:18 PM     [Snapshot: 1458]     Reply [Subscribe]
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What is the use of dual citizen for NRN besides inheritance? USA does not encourage dual citizen. There is a lot of complication arise with it. Search the net for that.  

Most NRN still says Nepal gayera k garne? Tehi NRN haru ahile afno education and qualification lai dhaal banayera Nepal Sanga citizen magne? Hami sanga education cha idea cha, timiharu hamilai citizen dey ani balla hami Nepal auchu ra help gachu. What kind of educated shit is that? Help nai garnu cha bhane voluntarily gare bhaihalyo ni. profit kina chahiyo?

Ani tyo mati Theme ma Emergency of dual citizen re hahaha? K ko emergency? Afno ghar jagga afno daju bhai khaidela bhanne emergency payro? Hahahahaha

I think Some big hotels are purchased and run by Indians. Do the have Nepali citizen and Indian citizen both? They came here gave employment to Nepalese and earn profit . If you want to invest Kasle rokcha ra? Nepal allows it. You are creating employment there. 
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Posted on 04-06-12 8:37 PM     [Snapshot: 1489]     Reply [Subscribe]
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babu mno, chupa lagera basa, j kura ko gyan chaina tesma mukh nahalekai besh.
aba legality ko kura garda, NRN are going to get taxed like foreigners if they do some business shit out there, it'll be taken as multinational or foreign based shit . 
now, we shitz are nepalese here living in foreign( k ko foreign, yeta kai nagarikta pani bhai sake pachi )  we know that and we don't want to pay 'ek rupiya parney chij lai 100 rupiya' , got that? 
goreto uhi, galli uhi , mula saag why to pay tax and all those business startups fees like foreigners, kura tetti ho.
haami nepali ho,  nepali bhayera janmey , bewar pani nepali lai garney bewar gara bhanna khojeka hun daka haru ley.. I don't see any bad on this.

ani kasto khalko ' aaloo-patey' kura garchau timi, "Help nai garnu cha bhane voluntarily gare bhaihalyo ni. profit kina chahiyo?"
dadha ley daadoo ko jhol ma dubera mareko jasto kura nagara na ho.. timi ek-dui jana nepal bahira udna sakiyena bhandai, afnai daaju-bhai ko ahit ta na socha. ki chor neta haru ko choosaah baani ley, timi haru lai ni asar garey.. yi NRN haru lai ni chusnu samma chusnu parcha bhanni lai ra ho.. tanna 'gaath' kamako huncha , chusnu parcha bhanney..hah? 

tesailey ..teti saro 'aboojh kutarka' haru nagara 'som'. ali logic ladayera kura lekha.
naya hydro plant banaula rey, naya pravidhi haru bhitraula rey, naya naya kura haru nepal ma leula rey.. ani chor neta haru commission ko love ma 'nai-naasti' garera huncha.. aba , huncha? huncha? bhanera k garnu, chor haru commission ko lovbh ley kunai project suru hunu dinna bhanchan? 

gayo nepal, aba dherai din chaina.. yetai pani manchey haru , china ko ki india ko bhanna thali sakyo..
 
Posted on 04-06-12 9:27 PM     [Snapshot: 1518]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Aba khaireni lai India china Iraq ra Afghanistan bhahek aru k thaha. Tyo pani bharkhar bharkhar thaha bhaye ko.

Dual citizen hudai ma hydro power ra aru ma commission nakhane neta le k gurantee cha? 

America chalayeko Jewish le. Nepal chalayeko aba Kasle bhanne khai. New generation aba desh ko neta huna lai aru desh ko citizen bhaihalyo. New generation I hate politics bhandai khokcha. Tehi neta haru lai sarapcha. New generation pani ta lagnu parcha ni politics ma. Political science padhey ko baye thaha huncha how interesting bhanera. Desh chalauna politics pani chahincha khali paisa re dimag bhayera pugdaina. Aba politics garna lai hatar hatar future ko obstacles nasochi lihaliyo America ko facility pauna afno desh ko citizen tygyo. Aba Nepal ma ko OBama banne? Ki Obama banna lai Nepali citizen chahiyo?

Rule is the rule. You have to pay tax in all countries depending upon their respective law. 100 jana NRN investor ko lagi aba Nepal le afno law nai change garna Ali garnai cha ho.  America ma pani tax evade garekai cha sabaile. Nepal am matra k timi gayera satya harishchandra Jasto full tax tirne ho? 

America ma millions of illegals lai residency khaile  dine ho Khoi pattai chaina. Jun president aye pani garchu bhancha. janta jilla. 
By the way I got GC. I work in the field I studied. I don't have the intention to get citizen here. 
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Posted on 04-06-12 10:21 PM     [Snapshot: 1604]     Reply [Subscribe]
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someday if i become a minister of foreign affair of nepal i will terminte dual citizenship. i will not let NRNs from entering nepal without proper document and visa. i make sure foriegn nepalese(NRNs) who wants to visit nepal pay double, maybe triple times of other foreign nationals visiting nepal. NRNs can be dangerous. they can be christian, muslim missionaries and others could be indian, american spies you never know.

again NRNs can afford to buy property in nepal and they will even raise tax property price and other commodoties simply because they have the power(cash) to buy it. not forgettting thet can even buy politics and destabalize the country.



 
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Well said, NRN are traitors most of them who were born in Nepal and acquired citizenship of other countries. I have lived abroad too and I was shocked when 80% of the Nepalese talked ill about Nepal. My own countrymen told me how would I live in Nepal. They told me Nepal is no less than a slum (pollution, corruption, load shedding etc. etc). Everybody have their right to live their own life, but saying such things about the country where your ancestors come from and where you were born is ridiculous.

Coming to the topic above protecting NRN, Second class citizen is always second. You will always be treated badly someday no matter what you do for that country. The natives of that country will have the final say and it will be something like this "Get out you foreigners". Therefore I urge all those Nepalese people come back to your country, and make your own country , your country needs you.
all students, asylum, refugees, illegal return home. don't live in america to pursue false dream. wake up to reality. new nepal need educated people to serve, contirbute to nations' building. let's get rid of old nepali system and create new nepal with better, just , equal system for all.


 
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Nepalibitch...
its not that Nepal is polluted but its people like you. who are polluted. Height of jealousy.

PS... I m not an Ameriv

 
Posted on 04-07-12 12:56 AM     [Snapshot: 1689]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Above post...

PS.. i m not an american citizen. I dont care whether Nepal allow dual citizen or forbid.
 
Posted on 04-07-12 2:38 AM     [Snapshot: 1727]     Reply [Subscribe]
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khoi k ho k..mu G khashi haru ko kura
mero bau le mero lagi rakheko sampati ma jasari ni lyaihalchu
kun chahi [Disallowed String for - replaced word] ho tyo 100 jana NRN ko lagi nepal ko law change garcha re? ha ha
NRN tannai chan
ani [Disallowed String for - use not allowed] ho hami le pathako remitence le nai economy dhaneko cha..thaha cha ki chaina?
yo patriotic fake bakwas dherai sune [Disallowed String for - replaced word] ho...ramra ra bidhwan jati sabai bahira gaye aba baki bhayeka timi khashi haru ko mya mya

Nepalibitich
"someday if i become a minister of foreign affair of nepal i will terminte dual citizenship. i will not let NRNs from entering nepal without proper document and visa. i make sure foriegn nepalese(NRNs) who wants to visit nepal pay double, maybe triple times of other foreign nationals visiting nepal. NRNs can be dangerous. they can be christian, muslim missionaries and others could be indian, american spies you never know."

this is the post of the year in sajha  haha
Nepali Bitich ho ki bitch ho....kunai din Miss Thamel Massage bannu bhayo bhane judge le sodhda yehi answer dinu la!

 
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 Kati NRN Sanga foreign citizenship cha thaha cha? Tesko kehi record cha? Out of all who are outside of Nepal 1%may carry citizen.
Cap pani Topi pani lagayera kati secure huna kojyaho. Hahahaha.

Afule kamyeko Chadai cha ni bidesh ma. Tyo bau baje le mihenat le kamako sampati ma kina akha.  Jaba. Uk le sabai british Gurkha lai residency dine bhayo, Teti bela dherai la afno Nepal ko sampati sasto ma bechera Uk gayo. La hera aba Nepal ma bhau badheko ani Uk ma ghateko. 20 years pachadiko nasokikana huncha? 

Tyo remittance.k NRN with citizenship le pathako bhanthanya. Tiniharu ko bau baje dhani chan. NRN with citizen le ta afno paisale bidesh mai ghar kincha, bidesh mai tax tircha.

Think of after 20 or 30 years, when all these NRN with foreign citizen go to heaven, will remittance stop? Do you think these NRNs children will send rremittance ?

Nepal ma KFC cha ni tesko malik ley citizenship Magya cha? That is international company. Ho tesari nai NRN le pani business garna sakcha. Aba business garne bhane pachi risk nalikan huncha? Tetro facility di sakyo NRN lai Nepal le. search the net for this.

These NRN ko second generation are not even Nepali citizen. US born. ABCD. Hahaha. 

K NRN lai dual citizen didaima desh develop hune bhaye kina nadiyeko ta yo sansar Kai desh haru le. There is lot more hassle than advantage bhayera ta hola ni. For that NRN need to dig deep into laws and rules of countries. Aba tyo NRN le kati garya cha . Yeti kai hawa ma magera huncha? Sabai neta Jasto khali protest matrai garna janya cha.
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Posted on 04-07-12 1:27 PM     [Snapshot: 1880]     Reply [Subscribe]
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mno babu,
kati barsa bho ahiley , 18 ki 19?? 
ali milayera lekhnu
tara mailey kura bujhey j hos.
no further comment :D 


 
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khoi mno babu hun ki nani hun..nabalak nai jasta chan....suga jastai rahechan..euta chiz rate pachi ratya ratyai
goolllla chalayo ganda bhanya jastai

*nrn dherai bhaisake ...nepal ko population ko 2 million bhanda badhi manche bahira baschan 'n they fuel ur economy
*bau le matra kamako hudaina, nrn hunu dherai barsha pahile dekhi remittence pathayeka hunchan dherai le in millions of ruppes ra bau baje ko purkyauli sampati kina kosaile chodcha, kina chodne?
*KFC ko franchise po ho kyare...ownership ta local nepali koi hoina ra?
*more than 60 countries allow dual citizenship
think u need to dig deep... or let some shemale dig deep into ur nasty azz

 
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 Will Nepali politicians consult India and China Japan before granting dual citizen ? Or will they they consult European countrie? 

India will have to give how many dual citizens to Nepalis working there for generations? And vice versa. Same in china and other Asian countries and gulf.  If Nepal granted dual citizen and other Asian countries do not, then what are the consequences? 

Since Asia is prospering , Feri sabai khaires afno desh chodera Asia ko dual citizen liyera Kaam garna ayo bhane? Hahahaha.

All countries have people who do black market business and they have multiple passports and multiple citizenships acquired illegally. 
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MNO in a broken record shocker. 
 



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