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 How many of sajha visitors are doing PhD and how many of you are frustrated?

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Posted on 10-25-12 9:54 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I know i am frustrated....It's been 3 years and i don't know when i'll get done. Maybe another 2-3 Years.
I feel like quiting my PhD and find a job or do something else.

This Biology PhD is just killing me. Now i have realized i chosed the wrong path.

I google some of my friends who finished undergraduate with me and are making pretty good money with just Bachelors or Masters Degree. I am stuck here looking at insects all day in my lab.


Are you frsustrated as well ?

What else can i do?

 
Posted on 11-20-12 2:30 PM     [Snapshot: 2629]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It's really depends on what your preference is, whether money is your final goal or not and whether you consider quest for knowledge and recogniition as a scholar as important or not. Phd does not guarantee you a job or good pay, but at the same time the jobs in academia as much more relaxed compared to job with 40hrs a week deal, dealing with program deadlines, unreasonable managers.. And yes, if you to go other regular places to work after Phd, experience is all that matters, not so much the Phd, unless your Phd is directly your work related. Phd is a just a degree that one can get by working in ideal world of school for so many years, while others working outside do not get that degree but gets the experience that keeps the rest of the world rolling. But again without Phd moving ahead in academic career is out of question. There are researchers working for big name companies with millions of $$$ funding, who would make professors look like clowns. But then very often they do not get to direct credits of their research outside of their employing company, very often they are required to sign the agreement that employing/funding company will own the research/patent. In academic world it's different that you own the credit for your work and get recognitiion for it in the outside world very often.

So it's really a matter of one's personal preference. There is no right or wrong way. You make a decision and stick to it. Rolling stones do not gather moss.

 
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eMero pani yeso upakar garidinu paryo sajha bashi harru....---> i am almost getting my undergrad degree with chem n bio (dual) major, have a decent GPA n GRE, has great research experience (poster/presentations/ couple of papers) and ready to apply for a Phd program in chem. I dont think i fit for academia and was hoping to enter into industry with a PhD degree. But, yeha kasai le master degree liyerau jau bhanne kura garchan! is Master degree worth it? 

 
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people say all the time that PhD is not important; it's waste of time. masters would do just fine and what really matters is your talent and skills, not your degree. that might be true, but in other areas besides science. if you're looking for a research based career (academic or industrial), you'll be better off with a PhD. if you are in the engineering field or want a 9-5 job as a lab tech, go get a masters degree.

i sense people in biomedical and chemistry related fields taking PhD as a burden. if you don't like it and you're doing it just because you think you have to, you probably chose a wrong career.

 
Posted on 11-21-12 6:33 AM     [Snapshot: 3119]     Reply [Subscribe]
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PHD test your patience. Patience for experiment, result, life etc. You work on your own project developed by you.
Masters work for others project and result produced by you will be others. No credit to you besides your salary.

 
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PhD requires a lot of hard work, time, and patience.  I am not sure how many of all these PhD students actually have inner desire to pursue PhD and do research.  My understanding is, PhD is a must for someone who wish to pursue career in the field of natural sciences.  Also, having PhD does not make one smart.  Having PhD would definitely make one knowledgeable in his/her research field though.  If someone is looking for a job in an industry, PhD is not always easy to sell unless it is natural science field or some research and development industries.  People in the industry generally look for suitable candidates rather than technically best/sound candidates.  ALso, having a PhD does not mean he/she will be outstanding contributor in the industry.  Please note that industry are generally much faster paced environemnt compared to university's research labs.  Also, companies are more interested in producing results rather than the best posible results spending enormous man hours.  Generally PhD students and masters student take simialr courses during the school in the same field.  Only major difference is masters students geneally complete a project or thesis (generally not comprehensive)  while PhD students perform comprehensive research and publish a couple of papers.  To be honest, having four years of experience in real world probably teach you way more than spending four years doing one research in a lab.  Again, there are certain jobs which require PhD and it is worth getting PhD for such jobs.  Based on my experience PhD not necessarily makes one critical thinker, decision maker, or smart in his field.   Also, most of the jobs are 8-5, so there is nothing wrong in doing 8-5 jobs.  I would much rather take 8-5 job in the field my interest and plan my time rather than spending long hours doing research thinking I may get sometime off in summer.  Again,

In addition, if someone is really interested in doing cutting edge research and end up in some four year college or end up becoming more of a teaching only professor, his/her career development may be not great.  However, in the industry, one has to brush up skills to be in demand which also helps in career development.



 
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I always wanted to do PHD but now I think I should do MBA if I have a natural sc degree.
Does anyone has expereince regarding bachelors degree and MBA coz my ccompnay is willing to pay for my education and preferably I will do MBA, but I have no idea,

anyone with exp and in the same situation?
 
Posted on 12-17-12 9:59 PM     [Snapshot: 3569]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 There was another thread similar to this so bumping !
i have decided to quit my phd as well 
 
Posted on 12-18-12 8:33 AM     [Snapshot: 3814]     Reply [Subscribe]
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त्यो धोतिहरुको नामको पछाडी त कति वोटा degree हुदो रहेछ कसरि मात्र पदछ होला Mr. Ravi Deshpandey ME, MBA, LLB, MLB, MS, MD
 
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Everyone who goes through PhD has to overcome fraustration and depression. It applies to every genious or average people like you and me. My professor says that the PhD is all about learing to be able to  overcome these obstacles in our life by being focused, dedicated and acquiring a critical thinking. Persoanlly, I don't care whether I will be a great scientist  in my field or not. I think u should know what you want to do in ur future. Will this degree helps somehow or not? If it doesn't at all, then you are wasting your time writing a thread. You should quit it.

Personally, sometime I feel like being a Monk but that is not the solution to what I want to be in my life. I can be a good teacher and I can sell myself with what I achieve. It's all about what is your exectation out of PhD. If you have high expectation about GC, house in US, BMW and bla bla bla. Those are all pushing you back. My roommate garduated and got a job that pays 90-100K per year( we had the same major). If I keep thinking about that and what I have at the moment, I will never be able to focus on what I want in my future. So, I keep pushing myself to the point I can take it. It's been 2 and half years already :) and as you are I don't know when I will graduate. 
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