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 One day we are dead so Why we are created , what is the reason behind creating human beings ? Is it true that We are made in God's image ?

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Posted on 04-25-10 10:04 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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One day we are dead so Why we are/were created , what is the reason behind creating human beings ? Is it true that We are made in God's image ?

It it true God Created  the earth, the sun, the stars and the universe?



Do you know why other species are created ?


DO you believe that there should be a reason based on human logic for every creation?


What you say people , personally?
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Posted on 04-25-10 5:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Let us not fight about it Just give me 1 credible journal article.

 
Posted on 04-25-10 5:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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U r fed a bunch of crap by creationist bro.
This villifying character of Darwin and using Genes as a source to point towards creationism is very laughable. Looking at your conviction to the topic I think u live in Texas or Alabama.

You can read Annie's Box to learn about Darwin's Character and even watch a movie that released this February "Creation".

 
Posted on 04-25-10 5:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Without aid from google or other credible source, define me in your own term what is Natural Selection?
And i think i will have talk with you.
You talk about natural selection and you don't believe in Darwin, that's comical. Do you know who coined this term "Natural Selection"?
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Posted on 04-25-10 5:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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haha, u mentioned Richard Dawkins... he is a freemason / illuminati bro .... they have been told to follow the protocols of zion to deceive and enslave rest of mankind by feeding them lies

this is the 2nd protocol (Destructive education)

Do not suppose for a moment
that these statements are empty
words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism
(Evolution), Marxism (Communism), Nietzsche-ism (Socialism). To us
Jews, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating
importance these directives have had upon the minds of the GOYIM.


 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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, not only funny this is hilarious.

 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I never said I don't believe in Darwin's theory of Evolution through natural selection.

There are a vast amount of evidence. And as of not using the Google I was the one who asked for 1 credible science journal article that stated your belief or that disproved Darwin's theory of Evolution by Natural selection.

From what I have learnt, Natural selection is a non random process which results in gradual transformation of any species from a siple form towards more complex form.
Cumulative Selection which results in a final complex form from a simple begining is a fundamentally non random process.

 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:14 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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And bro Whatever they say is based on evidence unlike your Right wing talking points.
Talk to me about evidence and facts not a bunch of Right Wing craps.

There is a massive amount of evidence for evolution. Get a life and read proper science books and get out of this creationist myth. Wake up guys.

 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"This villifying character of Darwin and using Genes as a source to point towards creationism is very laughable."
I am not sure bro where you exactly stand regarding this topic.
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Posted on 04-25-10 6:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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face it namaskaar bro, ur in  a sad state of affairs when u have to label people who disagree with u as right wingers when we dont fall into the right/left paradigm...we just pursue the truth (which is unbiased)

you have failed urself when you have to consider richard dawkins as your source of truth when he fashions himself as a militant atheist. How can anyone say that he can even begin
to be unbiased with regards to objectively evaluating the evidence? The
truth is that he cannot, and he is nothing more than the atheists
version of the very worst Christian televangelists.

His book "The God
Delusion" is so poorly written that I actually found myself laughing out
loud while reading it. I dare anyone to support that book as anything
more than ideological ranting. It is certainly far from high level
intellectual thought. (comment - jeff)


you have yet to disprove the claims from this article: http://www.henrymakow.com/forbidden_archeology.html

and here are more threads which you wont bother reading cause you have your head way up your ass that you wont consider different viewpoints even if they disprove your own

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/search.php?q=darwinism
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Posted on 04-25-10 6:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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May be you didnot know what you posted bro.

Both of what I said is in your post. Let me try to copy and paste it to you. First your post had this about Darwin :

Darwin was a renowned racist looking for a scientific excuse for slavery and genocide of "undesirable" and "inferior" races.

And here is your post about Gene or DNA as a source to point to a creator:

DNA is proof of a designer. The number of
chromosomes from everything
from a tomato, to a dog, to a human
vary so drastically; there is no
evidence of an upward
evolutionary progression
.


And you are the one who doubts about my standing :) LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't know the DNA map if you study falls so nicely in a heirarchy that it is astonishing. Read proper science book not Texas standard books.

 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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jneutron bro what has being an atheist or religious has to do with pursuing the truth????
Atheist are people who don't believe in religion. That's all. They may be scientist, teacher, entrepreneur, an athele or whatever.

Again jneutron bro, you are changing the topic. It is about evolution vs creationism that you believe.
If you want to mention any work of Richard Dawkins on this issue the talk about
1.The Greatest Show on Earth
2. The Blind Watch Maker
3. The Selfish Gene
4. The Ancestor's tale.

You chose a wrong book for wrong topic. The God Delusion is for people who have dogmatic belief ie., religion. It is not a science book.

About labeling, I said those views you expressed are right wing talking points and that is true. I don't have to back down on that. Again check on what I wrote.
 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sure thing bro,
First of all Darwin was not exposed to Mendels work on Genetics, however Darwin provided certain ample proof regarding evolution. Now in the modern world, scientists have combined the theory of Darwin which is the bed rock of evolution to the Mendel's idea of genetics to derive the Modern theory of Evolution.

 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:54 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Now, do you want me to define evolution on the basis of genetics? well i can do that too if you want!

 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:57 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanx Raju161 this is more reasonable post from you. The one you posted earlier is a pure Creationist myth. I agree on this one that Darwin had no idea of genetics. Very true. But he was very close. He not only relied on his fossil evidence he did experimented by himself on pigeons at his home, that speaks volume about his work.

 
Posted on 04-25-10 6:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes raju I would like to know your view and find out what were we arguing on??

I thought we were arguing on Evolution vs. Creationism ( Based on your earlier post)

 
Posted on 04-25-10 7:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Darwin is the "father of Evolution" not someone like Richard Dawkins

 
Posted on 04-25-10 7:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well in case of evolution Darwin's view was plain which i can summarize as
- More offspring's are produced than can survive
- Individuals are variable (morphology, cold tolerance etc)
- Some variability is heritable
- Acquired characters like someone who lost his leg is not inherited by next generation
- of-course the most obvious one- Resources are limited (food,water,cover,breeding opportunities)
-and best adapted traits are more likely to survive- that is successful trait passed on to next generation

 
Posted on 04-25-10 7:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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....now combining Darwin's view with that of Mendel's genetic ideas you can define evolution as
"change in gene frequency in a population over time" and it defines adaptation too.
Adaptation is any genetically controlled character that increases an individuals fitness. By fitness we mean simply ability to reproduce and survive

 
Posted on 04-25-10 7:14 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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and this is an example of adaptation,
This is the neotrophical fishing bat. It feeds on fish, it uses radar to penetrate the water and locate it's prey.

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Posted on 04-25-10 7:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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raju161  Can you guide me to my post where I said Dawkins was father of
evolution???

I think I know what is the contribution of Charles Darwin and Richard
Dawkins. Richard Dawkins is an Evolutionary biologist.



To make you clear when I posted my first post in this thread it had
nothing to do with evolution, I was posting a very nice almost poetic
quote from Richard Dawkins book which he wanted to read as an eulogy in
his funeral. It is jneutron who didn't know Darwin from Dawkins and you followed the suit with that creationist post so I was defending what is true and what is right.

Hope things are clear and Thanks for nice discussion.

 



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