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 Newars' Role in New Nepal?

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Posted on 04-08-07 8:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Newar people in kathmandu have bourgeois mentality. They are very racist in terms of caste. Majority of the newar community in kathmandu have traditional conservative views, which will be the major hinderance for the new nepal. But that doesn't apply to all new generation in the newar community, who are more liberal and apt to the new changes.
Being the original inhabitant of the valley, newar community can play important role in the new nepal. however, the new nepal should give same priority to all the people regardless of caste, color or race.
Newar people can do equally well in all the facets of development of the country. Most importantly, decentralization should be given priority in new nepal. This will create just and good environment in the all round development of the new nepal.
Newar community have rich heritage, they are good in business, arts and culture, rich variety of cuisine, as well as farming and other skills. Their skillls should be utilized in the entire new nepal. This will create the entire Nepal rich in arts and sculpture, which kathmandu is famous for in the World.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 10:24 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal needs new modern age thinking in order to head in the right direction. Separation and division of Nepal has led to the current conditions. We have to get rid of the 'us and them' attitude because in the big picture it is only "US" and "OURS" who have to gain from the betterment of our country as a whole. Nepalis for a better Nepal - we don't need any divisions among us in this regard.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 10:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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म rahulvai का कुराहरु लाई पुरा समर्थन गर्छु । यो थ्रेड मा भएका जस्ता केही दुषीत मनस्थीती भएका मान्छेहरुले गर्दा नेपलमा कुनै दिन भारतमा जस्तै ठुलो जातीय युद निम्त्यौनेछ। तेसैले यो कुरामा बहस गर्नु उचीत् नहोला।
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:01 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bravo to Rahul, uptown and bhusan for your comment. Fuchhe you should be same of yourself for your racist remarks, grow up kid, and try not to separate Nepal by cast any more. That will be last thing we need right now. It is because of some narrow minded thugs like you that Nepal is what it is now.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:03 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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And that goes to Hulaki too. Do you really want newars to start the same violent like in madhesh?
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:17 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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When we Nepali are going to learn that we all are nepali no mater what caste, race or language group we belong. I bet we all who visit sajha are educated people and if we think like that just think about the people who are not as fortunate as we are??? I know so many people who never gone to school think more widely than we are, so I am not trying to say that people who are not educated are racist or something like.

Every people group in Nepal have some special quality and they have plaued some kind of role to make Nepal a great country. So let's respect everyone as a person and focus on Nepali instead of what people group they belong.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:26 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Chhu Kha Pasa?
Ma ta Ghainto bhitra pasera thur thur kameko chhu tara
daraye ko bhane katti pani chhaina..!!

I mean, Newar guys, if you have guts come out, do something so that people take you guys seriously...............

You are all the time, grudging that Kalu Pande cut your pair of nose and ears...but doing nothing.... in retaliation....

do something... as iron is hot....
otherwise, you will be the biggest losers in Nepal.......
chetana bhaya.....
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:37 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hulaki
THE BIGGEST LOSER HERE IS YOU AND ONLY YOU.
NEWARS AIN'T GOT SHIT TO PROVE TO YOU OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTERS.
ITS BECAUSE OF INSTIGATORS LIKE YOU NEPAL IS IN THE STATE IT IS TODAY.
AND YET YOU STILL HAVE NOT STOPPPED RUNNING YOUR DIARRHEA MOUTH YET.

JUST CAUSE GOD GAVE YOU A MOUTH DUN MEAN YOU HAVE TO SHIT EVERYWHERE.
GOTTA LEARN WHEN TO SHUT THAT JHAAADAAA LAGEKO MOUTH OF YOURS.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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rahulvai says:
नेवार् ब्राम्हण् मधिसे को बिबाद् ल्याउनु दुषित् मानसिकता मात्र हो।

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One must be aware on the fact who is responsible to raise this debate to this height. We can talk ideal principles but we can't live ideal life, neither we can tolerate as budhdha did with the racist slurr and hate. The truth in nepalese society is that we do have the racist hatred rooted very deep and that is not easy to wash out away or simply forget them.

I have noticed in countless no. of threads, discussion forums, face-to-face debates, articles etc. that a certain no. of non-newar want to prove that newars are very racist, newars discriminate non-newars, newars do not tolerate non-newars and so on. They come with some examples which ultimately turns to be nothing, the one like hulaki presented above (OK, Mr, hulaki, how much your money was taken and was not paid off? do you have any proof with you? just don't try to say you were cheated by newars. One can produce tonnes of blame with anonymous name if s/he need no proof. So, such a vague blame is worthless and total bullsheet). To tell the truth, such a constant attack against newars has made newars more aggressive and distrustful against non-newars these days more than any time in the history. Also, that has impacted to build stronger bond between newars, which could lead to naji or jews' bond in near future. Yet, newars are loyal to all, flexible and soft-liners compared to any other race or community in Nepal. These bastard newar-haters want newars to behave like madeshi forum people or kirat ultra-rightist, who demand their own territory and who dreams wiping out others from the area of their majority population. But, newars will never go for that, and perhaps the newar-haters understand that fact too. Thats why the newar-haters maliciously use phrases like "neither fish nor meat", "can't be trusted" etc. to blame against newars.

So, I argue, ultra newar-haters, who put their all effort against newars, are the main culprit to deepen the racial / communal divide, which is already in worse condition in Nepal. It has been proved in time and again that unless we succeed to discourage such ultra newar-haters, we won't be able to preventing such a racial fuss to upraise .

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rahulvai says:

समाज मा सबै को भूमिका हुन्छ।

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Newar community has recognized this fact for centuries. I have argued several times that Kathmandu valley was USA of 21st century back in 15-16th century in Asia. People from all corners of the Indian subcontinent were brought there and got environment to co-exist by maintaining their identity and their own culture. The valley was a melting pot, that recognized the contribution of people from all race and cultural background. For example, newar-muslims speak newari, they are still able to practice their own muslim culture even after being detached with their original muslim habitat for several century. Every sub-group in newars do have roots from different places which they still have preserved in various ways such as are reflected in Diupuja. What does this all tell about? It simply tells, "newars don't need lession of co-existence and mutual co-operation by any non-newar, but non-newars need to learn how to respect others and produce conducive environment for co-existence, such that there won't be discrimination in the society". Newars knew it already in the past and they are raised through that process to build their knowledge and culture to the par excellence, which are still the only pride of nepalese people to show up before the rest of the world.

So, I strongly argue - if you want to make nepal better than now, you must discourage all sort of newar-hating people who are trying to force newars to be ultra-racist. Remind you, newars have a culture of inclusive participation and building a resonance with any other culture in flexible and mutually agreeable way. Also, remind you that all non-newars do not hate newars but the ultra-racist non-newar try to provoke the kind-hearted non-newar by repeatedly saying racist proverbs like "newar ista hudaina" and so on. They try to frighten normal people to deal with a newar and gradually build a racist community. So, they are the main culprit in dividing the society to much worse direction.

Whether you are a newar or not, it does not matter, but be clear you don't need to hesitate to deal with a newar believing such a stupid proverb, which has to be treated like "nappy-headed hoe" in the US. If you are a newar-hater, then keep posting bullseet in sajha or elsehwere against newars; that will not even shake a piece of androgenic hair of any newar or their progress.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:55 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i hope this hulaki ke rahul dai ra chana ko kuraa ramro sanga bujhyo holaa.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:55 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Keep fighting and saying whatever you guys may about your own caste/society being the best, but does anyone give a damn?? We're individuals with our own conscience and ability to rationalize. Instead of saying my Newars/Bahuns/Sherpas are the best (you may not know all the people in your caste but you still generalize??), why don't you talk about yourself and what you can bring to the table. As for me, I have always believed that I am the best no matter whom I'm affiliated with and no caste/sub-group/society can ever change my perception, mofos! Think positive.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 11:59 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ACTION !! – This is what is needed on behalf of Newari community. Kalu Pande and Prithvi are both dead. U cannot cut their noses. At least you could cut the nose of Gyane, if you have the guts.

If you cannot do this, then cut the nose of Hulaki……… he is right here in Sundhara Post Office Goshwara Hulak, waiting for your sword….

But Hulaki knows that a Newar’s sword will cut only Desi Ghee………..

Hahaha, Kasto ramailo……………….!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted on 04-16-07 12:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Just remember that "manish thulo karma ra dil ley huncha, jaatle hudaina"

A person cannot be good or bad depending on their birth. A person has to grow up and prove that he's a better person by his deeds.

Hulaki you have proved that you are a person of low mental capacity who cannot distinguish that we are all human beings and we have to judge each other by their individual talents rather than condemn the whole race because of one persons action.

In fact how much did that landlord borrow from you? I'll give you three times as much for free to nullify your venom towards an entire jaat. Send me your contact info and i will contact you to initiate the money transfer.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 12:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bhusan better not to argue with hulaki. leave him alone.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 12:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey Hulaki !!!
WHAT YEAR IS THIS ? BAISAKH 3 2064. ITS YOU WHO IS THE MORON TALKING ABOUT SHIT THAT IS 200 YRS OLD(Kalu Pande and Prithibi ?). ITS YOU who CANNOT LET GO OF THE PAST NOT NEWARS. FUGGING IDOTS THINKS HE SMAAAT !! MOTHAFUGGER DUN KNOW HIS HEAD FROM HIS ASS. HA HA HA Idiot dun realize if he's makin fun or been made fun of. ha ha ha
WHAT THE FUG ARE THOSE NEWARS GOING TO GAIN BY CUTTING ANYONE'S NOSE MORON ? NOTHING. So you can run your diarrhea mouth as mouth as you want. YOU AIN"T PROVIN SHIT OTHER THAN YOU ARE A DOUCHEBAG. !!! ha ha ha
 
Posted on 04-16-07 12:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I thought Nepal was/is "Chaar jaat, chhattis barna". So from where does the involvement of 'only' Newars come into the big picture?
 
Posted on 04-16-07 12:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hulaki, a Newar’s sword will not only cut Desi Ghee but also that tongue and those fingers you type with, fu(kin Nepali Don Imus!

Words of wisdom:
General hygeine says that you need to take a dump in the morning, coz if you don't all the shit starts coming outta your mouth. And thats whats happening with you, Hulaki. Make sure you start living a healthy and hygeinic life from today.
 
Posted on 04-16-07 4:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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केही पर्मेन्दर भागत का पहाडे संस्करण हरुले अब फेरी नेवार र गैर नेवार बीच फाटो ल्याउने धृष्टता गर्दै छन तर नेवार समुदाय लाई त्यती सजिलै उल्लु बनाउन सकिन्छ भन्ने सोच कसैले राखेको छ भने त्यो उस्को अज्ञानता हो र जग हास्ने छ । ईतिहास को हरेक काल खण्ड मा काठमाडौं र नेवार जोडीएको छ । कसैले मेटेर वा पुनर्लेखन गरेर परिवर्तन हुन सक्दैन । राष्ट्र राष्ट्रीय अखण्डता को लागि नेवार हरुले धेरै रगत पसिना बगाएका छन र बगाउने छन । सहनशीलता र उदार हृदयलाई कमजोरी सम्झनु हुन्छ भन्ने त्यो भन्दा ठुलो भूल केही हुने छैन । जाभा सम्म नेपाल रहन्छ, अरु रहला न रहला तर नेवार रहन्छ । चेतना भया ।
 
Posted on 04-16-07 7:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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thats right Sauravojha
 
Posted on 04-16-07 8:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Didnt want to talk much since you all have posted yours best.
some of yours turns out be a hate crime catagory, i just hope Nepal had such a law where hate crime and discrimination would penalise the maxium but unfortuneatly we dont even have a standard anti rape act.
for all of us smart wannabe,
i am sure almost all of sajha users are at least college educated.we all know what unity,economy,jobs,medicare,security,education means.
wisemen think big, they dont run after a crow thinking he bit off their ears,
Nepal is always united, shes a FULBARI,
FULBARI has been through lots of worst and good period, its the time we pay her back being wiseman
 
Posted on 04-16-07 8:56 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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P.S. the quotes that i gave above are direct quotes from bathroom coffee and sauravojha.........
 



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