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Posted on 09-16-14 1:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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  • When Anju Pant says she cannot sing hindu bhajan we oppose her.
  • When CK Raut says Madheshi people are being treated like lower class people in Nepal then we oppose him.
  • When Paramanda Jha takes oath in Hindi we oppose him.
  • When some madheshi leader wears dhoti in parliament we make fun of him.
  • When some tribal from mountain region uses cow for food we oppose him.
  • When some leaders propose to change the flag or national animal we oppose them.   
What does this mean?

It means we are still suffered from King Mahindra’s so called Panchayati Nationalism fever. Wake up people, this is 21st century’s, ‘Federal’, ‘Democratic ‘, ‘Secular’, ‘Republic’ of Nepal not anymore ‘Panchayati Kingdom’.  

 

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Posted on 09-17-14 11:08 AM     [Snapshot: 682]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Myfriend BathroomCaffee: If you have read history while drinking coffee in bathroom, there used to be Panchayati Kingdom in past (2017 BS to 2046 BS).
 
Posted on 09-17-14 11:27 AM     [Snapshot: 712]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hurrey, Facebook, BathroomCoffee: 

I am not supporter of Federalism and not against Hinduism…I am a Hindu but a country cannot be Hindu, that what I believe. If there are 20% other religions we cannot ignore them …They are also equal as 80%. They should have same right as others.

 If a person cannot speak Nepali then we should not force him to speak Nepali. If a person does not feel comfortable to wear “Daura Suruwal” we should not force him to wear that. 

In the past Nepalese women were forced to wear sari only... Now no one can stop them wearing jeans …

If someone says lets change the flag…what’s the problem? We can discuss on that…that’s the whole purpose of constitution assembly. If the majority wants to change it will be changed otherwise remains the same…but at least they should raise their voice…

Before few years no one was able the say the world “Republic” ..Now the country is republic..

It’s just matter of time my friends…you will also be changed according to time.


 
Posted on 09-17-14 11:59 AM     [Snapshot: 756]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes, my friend the freshly hatched in their nascent stage always goes through metamorphosis.
 
Posted on 09-17-14 11:59 AM     [Snapshot: 751]     Reply [Subscribe]
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IT guy , we do have to respect majority and as u said there are 80% hindu. And Anju pant is not a normal person walking down street she is professional singer. Its even against professionalism.
Give me 1 sole reason to change Nepalese flag : except Maoist and Aang Kaji sherpa said " puratanbaadi hindu dharma ko jhanda".
Those politicaians want to speak hindi just to please india, not because they cant speak nepali. I am not saying a person who dont even know how to speak nepali should speak just nepali. We are talking about big politicians here.
Wearing daura , sari is all personal interest but when you are representing people for nation you should be on dress code.
This is why we are always backwards. We define democracy as to talk shit about nation, wear what we want, go against society and moral just because we have right.
 
Posted on 09-17-14 12:24 PM     [Snapshot: 799]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It guy i just came across a news of type of freedom you state here.
http://7online.com/news/queens-man-posts-porn-in-windows-to-bother-immigrant-neighbors-/311889/
The old man has his right , its his house his property his will. What you say.
 
Posted on 09-17-14 12:25 PM     [Snapshot: 753]     Reply [Subscribe]
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If a person cannot speak Nepali then we should not force him to speak Nepali. If a person does not feel comfortable to wear “Daura Suruwal” we should not force him to wear that. 

There was a  day when IT_guy could not read/write/speak English. His teacher forced him to learn English (may be he was beaten several times with stick, for his miserable grammar) . He even came to the country made mostly by European criminals and their descendants and is bragging in English. .. story goes on...

If I am a Government employee, I must be able to read/write/speak national language. Even if you are Madhesi or Gurung, the service you provide will not be to mere 20% or 3% of population. (If there is high concentration of people of such language, then those language can be used as secondary language of operation.) In order to make you service ready, Nepali is taught from very school level. (Other ref: Hindi is taught across India) If you call this forcing Nepali then I have nothing to say. 

If I join armed force, I wear whatever the uniform is provided. I can not complain if I want to wear dhoti or daura or kachhad. Similarly, if a nation decides to make some uniform a national dress, I don't know why people complain that thats being forced on them?
*nation decides does not mean decided by each and every individual of that nation but majority. we can put this matter to vote.

कुरा र तर्क  जस्तो पनि राख्न सकिन्छ।  काम पो गर्ने कि।  



 
Posted on 09-17-14 12:27 PM     [Snapshot: 783]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@facebook and it_guy: My 2 cents thoughts.
Yes, Hindu religion is not adamant about the changes. See in the history where Bahuns are not allowed to eat meat are not kills goat in Dashain and still regarded as hindu.
Also, the rule is made by the majority and the minority should follow it. But the majority should not ignore the minority and its culture. Nepal is only one country who takes step to address the minority in terms of religion. Do we say not to build mosque or church in Nepal?? If u look at even USA, to build a church or temple, you should get permission from the people residing around that place. Then only you can go forward and build a temple.
But there are some forces in Nepal who try to change the mainstream. But again having the rich culture and flourishing this culture will only develop the country.
For example: If you build the cable cars for Manakamana, see the internal inflow of tourist in Manakamana. Do u think the cable car would be this popular if the Manakamana temple was not there??
Similarly, look at the other pilgrimage, many of the indian cities are developed around the temple.
We can do the same in Nepal too. Why is Pashupati foundation rich?? Because it is Hindu temple and popular among Nepali.
These are just some of the examples. If you want to develop the country and move forward, the only way is to preserve the countries culture and make small changes when necessary and move.
 
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केही प्रश्नहरु जुनको उत्तर इमान्दारीपूर्बक दिनु होला ??

१. अन्जु पन्त, सिके राउत , झण्डा फेर्ने हरु र गाइ खानेहरुको एक आपासमा सम्बन्ध के हो ?? कतै एकै तिरबाट संचालित त हैनन् ??

२. मधेशको र मधिसेको जायज आवाज उठाउनु र मधेशलाई नेपालबाट टुक्रयाउछु भन्ने कुरा एकै कसरी हुन सक्छ ?? बिरोध र बिद्रोह एकै हुन सक्दैन |

३. प्रजातन्त्रको कुरा गर्ने भए गत संबिधान सभाको चुनाव भएको १ बर्ष भएको छैन , के त्यो बेलाको जनमत मधेशबादी दल को लागि थियो ?? मधेश का जनताले नै उग्र मधेसी लाई पाखा लगाएको हैन ??

४. नेपाल आमालाई रन्डी भन्ने राउतको तरफदारी किन गर्दै हुनु हुन्छ ?? आमालाई रन्डी भन्ने पुत्र हुन सक्दैन कुपुत्र हो |

५. पंचायत शासन भोगेको भए मात्र थाहा हुन्थ्यो के हो पंचायत भनेर , कसैको बिरोध गर्नु वा बिचारमा बिमति राख्ने जम्मै कसरी पंचायत् को हिमाती भयो ??

अधिकारको कुरा गरौँ , कसले रोकेको छ ?? असमान ब्यबहार र बिकास को कुरा गरौँ कसले रोकेको छ ?? हिजो पहाडी लाई मारेर लखेटेर जितेका महतो, गच्छेदार , गुप्ता , मण्डल , सिंह को पार्टीको हैसियत अहिले के भएको छ | उग्र नाराले मधिसे सारा आउछ भन्ने दिवास्वप्न कसैले देखेको छ भने त्यो ब्युन्झे हुन्छ छिट्टै | नत्र फेरी अर्को उपेन्द्र यादब हुने छ |

 
Posted on 09-17-14 1:02 PM     [Snapshot: 842]     Reply [Subscribe]
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IT_GUY, " If you have read history while drinking coffee in bathroom, there used to be Panchayati Kingdom in past (2017 BS to 2046 BS)."
Oh really  you forgot the Rana Kingdom & the Malla kingdom too lol !! What is your point GUY ? What do they have to do with the current situation ? NOTHING. It is easy to play the blame game but hard to swallow that reality check pill.

 
Posted on 09-17-14 1:04 PM     [Snapshot: 883]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Read this and tell me this is f()king democracy
http://www.ratopati.com/2014/09/17/167939.html
 
Posted on 09-17-14 1:25 PM     [Snapshot: 882]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 IT_GUY,"If a person cannot speak Nepali then we should not force him to speak Nepali. If a person does not feel comfortable to wear “Daura Suruwal” we should not force him to wear that."
So how would you identify yourself ? lol !! The above are 2 things that identify WHO YOU ARE. If you were born and brought up in Nepal ... it would be next to impossible ...that you cannot speak Nepali(education--> Nepali Language Mandatory). Now if you become a pretentious ass and choose not to speak it that is your choice. 
IT_GUY,"It’s just matter of time my friends…you will also be changed according to time."
 We are still waiting for that Change since 2008 and waiting. lol !!

 
Posted on 09-17-14 2:08 PM     [Snapshot: 946]     Reply [Subscribe]
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facebook मित्र आत्तिनु पनि पर्दैन तत्तिनु पनि पर्दैन | प्रजातन्त्रमा सबैलाई बोल्ने छुट छ | देश टुक्र्याउने अधिकार सम्भिदान मा राख्ने प्रस्ताब राख्न पनि चुनाब मा राम्रै संख्या ल्याउन पर्यो नि - अनि तेस्लाई पास गर्न त दुइ-तिहाई नै चाहियो | अनि "प्रान्तीय सभालाई जनमत संग्रह गर्ने अधिकार दिन सकिन्छ, येदि तेस्तो जनमत संग्रहमा ९०% धेरै जनताले छुट्टिन पाउने विचार राखे छुट्टिन दिए हुन्छ " | एकपल्ट नेपाली भैसके पछि पहिलो दर्जाको र दोस्रो दर्जाको नेपाली हुनु हुन्न \ समान व्यवहारको कुनै गुन्जायस नै छैन भने छुट्टिने मात्र एउटा विकल्प रहन्छ | (नेपालका मधेसीजन यो अवस्थामा पुगेका छन् भनेको होइन , यो त उनीहरुले नै भन्ने कुरो हो ) |

अनि अर्को कुरो " नेपाल आमालाई रन्डी भन्ने चोरको के कुरा गर्ने भन्ने " विचार देखियो | बास्तबमा राउतले 'नेपाल' लाइ आमा नै भनेको छैन , तेस्पची रन्डी भन्न के ठुलो कुरो भयो र | अनि तेस्तो त हुन्छ नि, मान्छेको निजि जिबन मा पनि देखिएको छ | नित्तान्त यौन चाहना पूर्ति गर्नको लागि सम्बन्ध राख्यो , बच्चा जन्मिन्छ अनि जिउदै पुर्दियो, मरेर फाल्यो वा दोबाटोमा छोडिदियो | अब तेस्तो गर्नेलाई कसैले पनि 'आमा' भन्दैन होला होइन?
 
Posted on 09-17-14 2:24 PM     [Snapshot: 979]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It is happening once again here in Sajha Land, driving people banana with that Mahdhesi drive… (reminds me of that great legendry with antique signature mole).
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Posted on 09-18-14 12:29 AM     [Snapshot: 1197]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey IT_guy, let’s make this clear first; Nepal did not become secular and republic due to people’s will. There was no referendum or a general consensus. It was all decided by few Maoists leaders and some politicians. This you cannot deny.
I am all for protecting the rights of minorities. But you should not forget that any specific country exists not only due to its geographical boundaries. A country like Nepal has a rich history, culture and its own language. The nepali language as we know today was made the official language of Nepal during punchayat regime but it was needed to bring everyone, every ethnicity together under one idea, the idea of a country called “Nepal”. Language does not only have a role in communication, it is a big part of identity. So is a flag. Country is an idea, a concept, but we humans need something we can touch, feel, hear and see. So we have national flag, national anthem, national language. Supreme being or an unknown (however you want to call it) is an idea, a concept, but the symbol Om represents it.
It’s not because a country has changed its course that it should forget its past and destroy its history. England got rid of absolute monarchy but they still sing “God save the Queen/King” as their national anthem. France chopped their king’s head, but they did not destroy Versailles. You need history, your past to remind you of where you came from so that you do not get lost on your way to the future.

 
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Just coming back to Anju panta, she has right to not sing a song. But nobody has right to make fun of other's culture and religion.She acted as if saying hindu gods name is like committing a sin. Treated hindu as untouchable and something very bad. Remember, when Kumari came to US and lost her status, some of the americans were hurt and angry and rightly so. In a way we Nepalese, insulted US by treating them as something inferior. Anju did the same thing.


Another mistake by Anju was she completely Christianized a bhajan by changing the words. I am sure if somebody is singing Christian song, we cannot change the words and make it sound like hindu because basic sole of the song will be lost.


However, I do believe, this anju panta episode has been blown out of proportion.
 
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Some of my dear Sajha friends asked questions related to history of Nepal and the flag so I am trying to answer their questions. 

Let’s talk about the word ‘Nepal’. Before ‘Unification’ the world Nepal used to mean Kathmandu valley. Specially Kantipur,Kritipur,Patan and Bhadgaun mostly occupied by Newar people .The world ‘Nepal’ does not represent the entire land from Mechi to Mahakali and Himal to Madhesh. Rulers from Gorkha attacked and invaded the valley as well as other parts including Terai and Himal. They moved capital from Gorkha to Nepa because it was plain, beautiful and developed.  And after sometimes, people started calling whole country was as Nepal. So what to do with the word ‘Nepal’ for the people of Jhapa and Mugu, Taplejung and Janakpur ? What’s the problem if the name becomes ‘XYZ’?  (BTW I personally like the word ‘Nepal’.)

Now let’s talk about the Flag. Triangular flag represents ‘Dwajaa’ used in Hindu religion. If you have seen the pictures of Ramayan and Mahabharat you may be seen those kind of flags used there. You may have seen the triangular metal flag with sun and moon with human face on Hindu temples. Yes, what I am trying to say is the origin of this flag is from Hinduism. It has long history and unique in the world…I agree on that. But what’s the problem if some people want to discuss about it?  We should be able to explain the fact to them. (BTW I personally like this flag.)


 
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I didn't know flag have something to do with hinduism. When we read Rato ra chandra surya in our school, ... i never thought there is anything that meant it was for hindu.


But by the way, I don't think our flag is very scientific. Once I went to a conference, where there were flags from different countries. All the flags were fluttering, however, our flag hardly waved. I believe we should change it to rectangular.
 
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ठमेलमा १०० मा किन्या एक सरो पुलिस्टरको झन्डा पर्यो होला.
मेरो स्कुल मा राखेको झन्डा चै मज्जा ले फ़र्फ़राउथ्यो
 
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If you want to know more about our flag go to google and search as 'hindu dhwaj'...Good luck !
 
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Ok..Now about the cow...

Do u still want to do that ?




 



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