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 Is Nepal better off as an indian territory?

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Posted on 04-29-13 11:00 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Situation of Nepal is getting worse everyday due to corrupt politicians. Sometimes I feel like Nepal will be better off as an Indian territory. What do you thik?

 
Posted on 04-30-13 12:26 AM     [Snapshot: 562]     Reply [Subscribe]
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giordano, you should be proud to be a human, to be an earthling.
'Proud to be a Nepalese or any other nations' shows some good sentiments attached to the land you were born in, am not against this sentiment,but  remember, borders were created, we first are human and then earthlings, and then whatever name  you wanna add at the end -ese,-can,-ians at the end.. your choice.

Should there be apocalyptic scenario , say massive Apophis Asteroid hit our planet in coming year 2032, say it hit the mediterranean region around equator, do you really think, being of certain nation will save you from catastrophe? 

so why all this fuss. We belong to this planet, whereever we're treated better, we have a choice to go there, How can we be traitors when our only wish is to be in better place? Isn't our only reason of existence is to be happy? Introspect yourself, every single move in your entire life is geared to become happy and SHOULD be to make other happy. Many fail miserably to achieve it, few succeed.
Chill !!!


 
Posted on 04-30-13 12:36 AM     [Snapshot: 577]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 @ bittertruth 

If thats the case y wud you say i would like nepal to be a part of china? The same way I am proud to be Nepalese and I will always be. You can't change my view I am sorry.

 
Posted on 04-30-13 9:30 AM     [Snapshot: 710]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Few things in my opinion, Nepal will never be taken by India or USA, namely because of China being in close proximity and China will never take over Nepal either because of India and USA influence. Having said that why would anyone want to take over Nepal? what is the ROI that will justify waging a war to takeover Nepal? India will never annex Nepal because they know that is not going to be fruitful for them, they have learned their lesson from sikkim and mizoram/manipur headache.  They are already influencing Nepal's policies by pressuring the ruling party, whether it is maoist, congress, monarchs or otherwise by dictating the policies that favor them so why even bother? ultimately our geographical location forces us to comply with them and there is very little we can do and they very well know this.

In that regards India has already taken over Nepal, modern day occupation of a foreign country does not involve forceful takeover, rather it involves creation of policies that favors one's nation as much as possible without having to shed a single drop of blood.  
 
Posted on 04-30-13 10:19 AM     [Snapshot: 745]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Our Politicians are nothing but Puppets of Indian Government. They have all been castrated therefore only have the ability to bark and not bite. Maoists came into power hoping to gather up their mojo and put on a show but ended up all castrato. 
 
Posted on 04-30-13 10:31 AM     [Snapshot: 749]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Wow I didn't expect this much response since it was only a rhetoric question. Because as we know it, it is highly unlikely that India will be directly able to take over another sovereign country in this day and age. But as couple of you have pointed, India does not need to take over Nepal because India already has pretty much full control over Nepal be it social, cultural or political.

Inspite of us marvelling at our bravery and being blessed with Mount everest and buddha birthplace, India has always held control over the socio-political aspect of Nepal.

Some of us responding here have lived out of Nepal for sometime so we have different experience in evaluating patriotic sense with common sense. We grew up being fed propaganda text books extolling the greatness of our ancestors and our kings thus holding us captive in our deepest mind to burn that unflickering candle of patriotism within us. Brainwashed to find great value on a giant piece of stone and the luck of birth of Buddha, our sense of false pride has constituted our ego for lack of anything else major or worthy of being proud.

Some of us have recently left Nepal in search of better opportunities and the years of brainwashing of false greatness is still there so we will try to hold on to the insignificant hollow pride.

After becoming the so called 'global citizen' one has to recognize the essence of freedom of choice which brought you out of Nepal in the first place. Of course you have emotional connections but you chose to leave it all behind but you still have enormous pride for being a Nepali and it is engraved in your ego. But as a practical person, if someone ask what you are proud of then there is no achievement or anything else you can say besides the overused mountain and the buddha.

Perhaps instead of holding on to the hollow pride, we can move on as a whole and accept the truth and the reality that Nepal is a failed state created by the greed of politicians who mostly come from poor underpriviledged upbringing and continue the cycle of the neverending downward spiral.

It is difficult to imagine what would stop this process. Have any of you thought what would actually stop this cycle of corruption and greed?

 
Posted on 04-30-13 10:45 AM     [Snapshot: 783]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@nepaluk,
couldn't agree more.

and for your last question, one word answer : Miracle

 
Posted on 04-30-13 1:02 PM     [Snapshot: 870]     Reply [Subscribe]
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go phuck yourself, nepaluk, would you sell your mother into prostitution if your life is little worse.

look at where nepal was and where nepal is right now. things are not as good as it we hoped for but it's not that bad either. progress and development takes time. nepal is going through revolution right and she will definitely come out winner in near future.

you talk like India is a heaven that will solve all the problem. go take a deaper look at india's problem and come back here. it is worst than nepal.


 
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Ghantaa pragati huncha yesari jhagada gare pachi? Nepal bata thousands miles para basera "Yo vayena tyo vayena". we all have our own reasons to leave nepal. Nepal ko pragati ko kura garne re...AHILE SAMMA TAH BAHUN TAH CHETTRI TAH GURUNG TAH NEWAR vanne kurama jhagada huncha...ghantaa ko pragati. You know what? Now I actually think that Nepal should be invaded by India. ANI JABA DHOTI HARU LE PELCHA ANI TESPACHI KO BAHUN KO CHETTRI KO GURUNG KO NEWAR....AJHAI SAMMA JAAT BHAAT KO KURA LE JHAGADA GARCHAN BHUSYAA KUKUR JASTO. KURA CHAI NEPAL NAI CHALAAUNE JASTO GARCHAN

Jay Nepal
 
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dolphin you probably cannot distinguish between the person who gave you birth and the place of your birth. The place of birth is a man made restriction as far as border of land while a mother is someone who gave you birth by keeping you in her womb for 9 months. There is no comparision to mother and place of birth. You may be brainwashed by things like mother and motherland blah blah but motherland is nothing but the ground where people have put border around calling their country. My motherland is the earth. I am not restricted by any borders in my head and I feel sorry for narrow minded people like you who can't think beyond their own restrictive borders in your brain that somebody else have set for you.

 
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 Dolphin it ain't gonna make no difference, you will have an Indian politician Pimp instead of a Nepali politician Pimp if you are a prostitute. Bottom line things are not going to get any bettar for anyone trying to put food on the table for wife and kids.

Things are not good and not bad either ? Who are you fugging kidding ? You think we are blind here ? look at the price of 1kg rice, that just says it all. Yes progress and developement takes time ..ok BUT ITS BEEN 3 FUGGING YRS & THE INDEX OF PROGRESS HAS TAKEN A DIVE BELOW THE PAR. THERE IS NO SECURITY, NO LAW AND ORDER, PPL ARE SCARED TO GO OUT AT NIGHT and you fugging call this progress ? If you want to open an industry or do anything you still have to bribe the officials from top to bottom and this is fugging progress ? Winner in the end rey ? I DON'T SEE ANY FUGGING LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL MORON !! 

SO FAR THIS REVOLUTION HAS NOT MADE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THAT RICKSAWALLA, OR THE BHARIYA, OR THAT KISSAN TO MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER. AGAIN YOU ARE GOING TO SAY IT TAKES TIME... WELL GYANEY(i AM NOT A FAN) GOT ONE YEAR, MAOIST HAVE HAD THREE(YRS OF SITTING ON THEIR ASSES FILLING THEIR POCKETS)... YOU DO THE MATH. 

 
Posted on 04-30-13 2:53 PM     [Snapshot: 946]     Reply [Subscribe]
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If one were to do a study on any Nepalese who says "I am proud to be Nepalese", you will find that these people come from middle class or the upper class, who will not suffer no matter how long it takes for Nepal to be a success. So they have all the patience. They form 10% of Nepal's population. I also belong to this 10% who can afford to wait for a successful Nepal.

But is this about the 10% or the 90% who really struggle from day to day to make ends meet, struggle for proper healthcare, struggle for almost everything that one should not struggle for to function as a human being in an ordinary life. Why should this 90% keep on waiting?. They are the ones to suffer and always wait and wait. Who are we the 10% to always decide for them to wait. What if you belonged to that 90% needing food, shelter, healthcare, job, etc?. Would you still have that patience to wait?. Why should they even wait 1 minute, let alone wait for yonks.

If i were president of Nepal, i had do the most Anti National thing. Call for a referendum to be ruled by white people (USA). At least this 90% will see some relief. Even joining India is a great idea that i would discuss with my kitchen cabinet. IF this is done in a legal way, UN will have no issues. Puerto Rico is also contemplating joining USA and could be a reality of the near future. In fact Mitt Romney had shown them the green light. Noone can do anything if this is done legally and it is high time that educated Nepali youngsters got together to put forward anti national ideas which could benefit the 90% citizens of Nepal.

This is serious!. Vote for USA of Vote for India in such a referendum. Anything that is better for this 90% of Nepalese, is worth it for giving up this concept of independent  Nepal. If being a lengdup dorje is beneficial to this 90%, long live lengdup dorje and his shenanigans!


 
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Ur Head is Messed up and Ur heart is cold !
Where is ur patriotism dead? or Sold ???

 
Posted on 04-30-13 3:32 PM     [Snapshot: 1002]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It seems like there are two types of Nepalis.

The first kind has a constant need to feel connected to something to feel important. So they will connect themselves to their caste, nationality and national pride.

The second kind have been sort of liberated, if you will, to see a broader picture of life.

This is what I have seen in many discussions about being Nepali.

 
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@giordano, am not trying to change your view. Sorry if I sounded so, I was infact hoping for goodness in the quality of Nepalese people's life. And, for me, it seems at the moment, only merger could solve this crisis. There was no Nepal, when Buddha was born, and there was no Nepal when Mt Everest stood tall during all these Earth's geographical changes which took place eons ago. I simply don't understand what all this drama is for. Probably, it's the media hogwash who deliberately played songs and videos of how dearly their land is to them. Thats how they do it in China, thats how they do it in North Korea, India and Nepal and so many others. I don't blame you. I just think little out of the box. Feel sorry for them who are still in it.

@rethink, you hit the nail, thanks for great and pinpoint analysis.

@nepaluk, I don't know if I should call few of these braindead trolls, actually 'braindead' but the bitter reality of todays' world is that majority of the population of Earth are such, ...no wonder there is no peace on Earth. It's cause of such brainwashed bunch, there are wars and violences everywhere who would kill/die for the sake of invisible fake beliefs or for their own selfishness. I feel regret instead of getting angered at, when I read their limited mental capacity to think and how they express.

 
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 dolphin who are you kidding that things are not bad? part of it is you are in denial about how bad things really are in Nepal for all the people less privileged than you. Why do you see a constant unending line of Nepali men and women standing to get an opportunity to work abroad? why do you see so many nepalese kids going abroad? why do you see people filing for residency in foreign land? if things had been an ounce better then people should have been flocking back. The reality is things are not better for anyone in Nepal, people have now accepted this dishearteningly dire situation as the new norm. As soon as the small percentage of privileged people get into their gated compounds and in the security of their homes they forget about the gloomy existence of the world outside that most people are facing everyday. 
 
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 Most of people who are barking here about indian takeover should be working in indian resturant or dhoti's gas station. Common guys, we get paid because of your hard work, you are not required to be indian bootlicker. Have little self respect and respect your work.

How can you people write such an idiotic crap like nepal should be annexed by india or china or america? Looks like you people are okay to sell your mom or sister to anyone if you get something better. Or selling your ass hole for money to your dhoti masters. What is that bullcrap land and mom are not same? For many people motherland is still like your mom. Have you guys ever been to darjeeling or deharadun or even sikkim? How well is the living condition of people of nepali origin and their takepart in the politics and policy making level? Do you guys prefer being a slave who entertains all the worldy means of entertainment, luxury etc?

I don't blame anyone for writing such a bullcrap. We are being purposedly driven to write such lines by our leaders funded by india or some other countries. And they are getting successful on that. I clearly forsee India is not going to takeover nepal. All india wants is a fully puppet Nepal, full control over defense, foreign policy, and all the resources. Even if india takes over, somehow, Nepal will be a hell like Afghanistan and she will be a pain in the hairy dhoti ass coz many people will still chose to die as nepali than being an indian. 


 I recently went back home and found things have improved quite a bit except the law and order. If i am not wrong this utter chaos will not last longer if we have a few good and visionary leaders. So wait, do not panic. If educated and learned people like us start thinking like this we'll be getting nowhere even if we are annexed to usa or japan. Coz it's fugitivism. Stop being losers folks. REMEMBER MANY PEOPLE IN SIKKIM SAY " SIKKIM KO SUKHA BHANDA BIHAR KO SWOTANTRATA RAMRO"   
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Posted on 04-30-13 4:52 PM     [Snapshot: 1047]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 Situation of Nepal is getting worse everyday due to corrupt politicians. Sometimes I feel like Nepal will be better off as an Indian territory. What do you thik?

To validate your statement could you provide me some supporting evidence, please?

In the beginning I though you may be right, then I decided to check wheather Nepal is really getting worse or not I found evidence which contradict your claim. 

data no. 1

Trasparancy international's corruption index

China ---------------------China is getting worse in corruption ranking in last 5 yrs
In 2008-----70
in 2011------75
in 2012------80


India ------------------has remained almost same in last 5 yrs
in 2008-----96
in 2011-----95
in 2012-----94


Nepal ---------Has remained almost same  in last 5 yrs
in 2008----138
in 2011----154
in 2012----139


Compared to India our ranking is not good but India has not made any progress either. 
If Indians start to think the way you think may be they will say "because of corrupt politicians India is getting worse everyday may be they are better off a Chinese territory.

Just a reminder, China thinks Arunachal Pradesh is a Chinese territory 
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Posted on 04-30-13 4:58 PM     [Snapshot: 1073]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 As it is, India will not let Nepal develop. If Nepal develops, Nepal will automatically incline towards China, which they don't want.

1) India started the Maoist war
2) India started the Madhes movement and started handing out citizenships to Biharis, Bangalis and Pakistanis
3) India is trying to incite racial violence in Nepal by instigating Janajatis, Tharus and Madhesis.
4) India doesn't facilitate trade with Nepal in anyway and always slaps two way tarrifs on Nepali exports. 

India's long term goal is to capture Nepal's resources and make it a huge market for Indian goods. 

I think Nepal should join the Indian Union as well. In today's globalized society, country and nationalism have no value. The only thing that matters in capital and resources. 

 
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 Now Google transparecy index

Google transparency report 2013: find out what the world's governments want to know about you


from 2009-2012

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China               4                                      50                                4

India                 652                                   44                               4560

Nepal                 1                                    100                                 4 ( not that bad ha?)


 



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