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 You don't need to fear God

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Posted on 02-13-13 10:46 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Everyday thousands of people pray to God ask for things from him because it makes them feel better about it. For some it's the fear of the unknown. 

There is nothing God can do and the reason is very simple. The reason lies in the relativity and circular logic.

For example let's take us, human beings. We go about doing our own things. Let's say someone sneezes sending particles into the air. Each particle can develop millions of micro organisms within the particle. We cannot go deep into the sub nuclear level to see what goes on in there. There could be civilizations within that particle. There could be an organism which fears God and the god is the human being who sneezed.

In the same way, in the realm of our God, the whole milky way could be a speck of dust particle floating in God's environment. The God Civilization is completely unaware of this speck of dust but this speck of dust contains the whole universe, the whole milky way and the unexplanable void beyond which is just too large for the organisms within that speck of dust to comprehend. We do see how electrons and nucleus acts similar to the solar system so I draw the parallel universe comparision from there.

For each level of God there can be sub level creations and it can go on a circular way till we reach back on the starting God since everything about relative sizes. Relative sizes in one reality may be vastly different in different realities including different time cycles.

In conclusion, since GOD cannot ever experience or observe the minute sub sub atomic existence of their creation, they cannot in any way affect their life cycles. 

So don't worry about God, and enjoy life for what it's worth.

PS: Don't take this too seriously. I just had some time to burn and this thought had been dwelling as a possibility since the god discussion some time back



 
Posted on 02-26-13 9:08 AM     [Snapshot: 4522]     Reply [Subscribe]
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I should go and debate with 6yr olds ? he he I have lost the pleasure of debating with a numbbutt like you too. You omit all the facts presented to you. Go on a long ass jibberish about london looking tokyo turning and end up inthe middle of nowhere.WHAT IS THE POINT OF PUTTING A SENSIBLE ARGUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU  WHEN YOU KEEP DISCARDING THEM ? OR YOU KEEPTALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING THE MATERIALS PRESENTED TO YOU ? LOL !! As I said before you keep running around that tree chasing that ass oblivious to facts presented to you by everyone here. This deficient has put himself in a pedestal now. he he 

 
Posted on 02-26-13 9:15 AM     [Snapshot: 4524]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It was a perfect time for freedom2012 to put his tail under his legs and run away from this discussion since all of his imaginary philosophies have been shot down by more logical realistic reasoning, to which he has no answers, and to which all he can do his re-repeat his nonsensical philosophies like a broken record. 

He is unable to defend anything about his imaginary being because obviously it is only imaginary. So he is better off keeping his imagination alive among other weaklings who seek solace on the imaginary being instead of waking up to reality and accepting life as a one time opportunity.

I will even say an "amen" after this, for his sake. 

RIP Freedom2012 from this thread.

 
Posted on 02-26-13 1:25 PM     [Snapshot: 4556]     Reply [Subscribe]
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So ATheists failed to prove the following,

1) That their own existence is an absolute truth and how it becomes valid without being verified
   by everyone. They failed to prove how much verification is enough and when does the visual
   verification process stop. They agreed we were all existing prior to meeting in Sajha,
   which goes againsts their visual verification system.

2) They failed to prove absence of objective morality (eg "murder is wrong") and how all humans
   must guide themselves to such a purpose, which is contrary to evolution which is directionless,
   unguided and purposeless.

3) Failed to prove unconsciousness can account for consciouseness, let alone CREATE consciousness.


4) Failed to prove from a scientific perspective that there can be no afterlife. This is simple to
   understand because there is no Science there.

5) Failed to prove how can the big bang (a scientific process) can occur BEFORE the creation of time and
   Science.

  
And finally, something new which i have not broached yet.

6) How come our death is scientific when we cannot verify or see it ourselves. The verification and sighting
   is done by others not the one who is dead. This again harks back to the visual verification system to
   prove everything. The only way to make a scientific sense of our death is actually to live on and realise
   that we are dead. Otherwise, much like life, death is also not an absolute truth,that which is valid for all,
   including self. 

(REthink and Bathroom, please do not bother to reply on this one as both of you are incapable of critical thinking)


 
Posted on 02-26-13 2:07 PM     [Snapshot: 4581]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"I can win any debates with Atheists because I will bring up points about laws of nature and origin of universe that NOONE clearly understands (Therefore, it must be GOD). If they mock this imaginary faith with their logic and reason, I will harass them with esoteric philosophy and semantics"

Freedom for President!

 
Posted on 02-26-13 2:56 PM     [Snapshot: 4604]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Freedom for President? No, I'm not voting.

How about Freedom for God, instead? I'll seriously consider voting for him.   

All in jest. 

 
Posted on 02-26-13 3:07 PM     [Snapshot: 4627]     Reply [Subscribe]
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hehehe....so we shall agree then that there is indeed Science in life, but life by itself is not Science.

So once you convince yourself of that, it is easier to understand the non science realms.




 
Posted on 02-26-13 3:23 PM     [Snapshot: 4631]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 lol !!!  
Non Science realms is called Nonsense. Only makes sense to Nonsense people.
 
Posted on 02-26-13 3:25 PM     [Snapshot: 4641]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"If you can't see it, hear it, touch it, taste it, smell it, measure it, observe it, understand it, or verify it...............Worship it!"

Just saying :)
 
Posted on 02-26-13 3:55 PM     [Snapshot: 4660]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Even after facing much humilation and defeat for lack of reasonable logic, Freedom has no qualms about coming back with same quasi self fulfilling logic which does not need any verification or substance. 

"hehehe....so we shall agree then that there is indeed Science in life, but life by itself is not Science."

Who is he talking to even? Noone has replied to him yet he says "so we can agree"
 who is he agreeing with lol? It seems like he is agreeing with himself since noone seems to be agreeing with him. But he surely has God in his team. So no matter how much humilation he faces he will always feel the divine blessing on his forehead, and will keep on coming back for the last word, which was taught by his god because God always wants to have the last word.

Again he comes with asinine logic like "How come our death is scientific when we cannot verify or see it ourselves. The verification and sighting is done by others not the one who is dead."

How about someone hit him from the back with a baseball bat. I
 wonder if the verification and sighting will be done by the person who is hitting him or freedom will experience the pain when he cannot verify or see it himself.

He has asked me and bathroomcoffee to not reply to him. Oh he forgot I
 started this thread lol. Pretty soon he will be adding slackedemic and snurp to this list too. Obviously he cannot get anyone to root for his stupid logic. Him calling some people here eklavya is pretty ironic since he is the eklavya here but he can't see it because he has his imaginary friends with him that are supporting him. 

 
Posted on 02-26-13 3:57 PM     [Snapshot: 4662]     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think it's time for him to create a new username and make another comeback. Like say back from the dead.
 
Posted on 02-26-13 4:48 PM     [Snapshot: 4690]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@snurp

"If you can't see it, hear it, touch it, taste it, smell it, measure it, observe it, understand it, or verify it...............Worship it!"



hehehe that was  so not my point. Before we met in sajha, I did not see you, i did not hear you, i did not touch you, i did not smell you, i did not measure you, i did not observe you, i did not understand you, i did not verify you........therefore you did not exist.

AFTER meeting in sajha, i STILL have not seen you, i STILL have not heard you, I STILL have not touched you (take this into context) :), I STILL have not smelt you, I STILL have not measured you, I still have not observed you, I STILL do not understand you, I STILL, have not verified you....therefore you do not STILL exist yet.




 
Posted on 02-26-13 5:01 PM     [Snapshot: 4701]     Reply [Subscribe]
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".....I STILL do not understand you, I STILL, have not verified you....therefore you do not STILL exist yet. "

Who the hell are you talking to then?

 
Posted on 02-26-13 6:00 PM     [Snapshot: 4729]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@slackdemic,

"Who the hell are you talking to then?"


I am not talking to anyone. I am just chatting.
This is a difficult question. It could be a boy, a girl, a man, a woman, a mix of both, an intelligent monkey involved in a science experiment chatting from a science lab, it could even be you or Rethink using another ID. So, for me to verify that he actually exists as a distinct individual, i have to verify him using his very own standards. Now you can see that "chatting" is not part of his verification process. 

In the worst case scenario, he could be a nigerian scammer.  
 
Posted on 02-26-13 6:53 PM     [Snapshot: 4755]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Freedom, you are just confusing yourself with the cobweb of words. You said you are chatting, not talking; next time you might say I am not chatting but typing on the keyboard.

Since you said you are not sure who you are chatting to, don't you think It could very well be a God having some good time with one of his disciples?

 
Posted on 02-26-13 6:59 PM     [Snapshot: 4756]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@slackdemic,

God doesnt get 2 thumbs up from Atheists. (Check above)
 
Posted on 02-26-13 7:02 PM     [Snapshot: 4766]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 02-26-13 7:11 PM     [Snapshot: 4777]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nah not really. I have just given one each to you and him. Check above.
 
Posted on 02-26-13 7:15 PM     [Snapshot: 4781]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear resident Sajha scholar,

Once again we are asking for your service to decode this embedded video whose meaning hasn’t been ascertained yet.

Much appreciated.

Retards,
International Decoders of Invisible and Obscure Truth (ID10T)
“If you can’t convince them, confound them.”



 

Last edited: 26-Feb-13 07:18 PM

 
Posted on 02-26-13 10:37 PM     [Snapshot: 4837]     Reply [Subscribe]
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After having lost all his credibility due to his imaginary philosophies, the chameleon is back with a dose of unsuccessful humor. Alas, the length people go to nurse their injured cyber ego. He is becoming delirious - which is hilarious in this context not because he's funny but because it shows his defeatist mentality. I have tried to tell him this is not about winning. You are free to believe your god, but just don't come bible thumping and acting condescendingly trying to impose your screwed up philosophies about existence, consciousness and morality. Just accept the fact that you could not get anywhere and move on from there instead of constantly slipping on the proverbial invisible banana skin.

The chameleon keeps on getting shot down again and again at his own stupid philosophies.

"it could even be you or Rethink using another ID"

He is getting paranoid now. Hah I didn't think I'd ever have that kind of effect on anyone sane. I hope rethink does not come and haunt you in your dreams kicking down all the sand castles you have built for your imaginary worshiping needs.

Sorry, at this point I am just enjoying this charlatan's demise.

 
Posted on 02-28-13 10:00 PM     [Snapshot: 4960]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Quote taken from another thread dealing with animal cruelty simply to highlight the fact
that this Rethink dude is nuts and does not know what he is talking about.

"On one hand we 'farm' animals to slaughter them mercilessly for meat and fur, and on another
hand we have deep rooted sense of morality from our own experience and discovery to not do
something upon others, including animals, that you don't want done onto yourself."

Notice how conveniently he uses the golden rule from religion to prove his point?. Never mind
that he uses this point wrongly which i will elaborate later.

Christianity-------> Do unto others as you want others to do unto you.

Hinduism...........> One should never do that to another which one regards as injurious to one’s
                     own self.

Buddhism...........> Hurt not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful.

The issue of golden rule is applicable to humans only. For plants and animals, we do not use the
golden rule, rather we use compassion, mercy, care and love. The issue about animal cruelty
is not about being vegetarian, but finding a humane way to kill the animals. So it is not like,
if one were an apple would you like to be plucked from the tree?. Or imagine if you were the goat,
would u like to be killed for the meat?. So Rethink by using the golden rule is in fact saying,
it is ok to kill him, just use humane ways!. See the logic of this ?. Poor Rethink bro. But it
is not too late, still time to learn.

This is what happens when a layman tries to deal with rocket science. And exactly why i say he
lacks critical thinking.


 



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