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 Meaning Behind the Caste System

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Posted on 04-06-11 6:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The Bhagvad Geeta says that there are four different types of human beings, viz. Brahman, Kshetriya, Vaisya and Sudra. These castes, as said by lord Krishna, cannot be endowed upon an individual by the society; rather, they are simply a reflection of his intrinsic characteristics. It is one’s purpose/goal/aim/sankalpa in life that determines his caste. Each individual dwelling in this world belongs to a caste. Let us start out by briefly describing each caste:
Sudra- A Sudra is one whose only purpose in life is to eat and procreate. He has no higher goals. He works only to feed himself and his family. He turns a blind eye to the agonies of the society. He lives in a very narrow boundary of “digestion and procreation”, i.e. eating, sleeping and producing babies.
Vaisya- One whose primary purpose in life is to amass wealth is a Vaisya. He invests his brain, time, power and resources for accumulating wealth. He, while eating/sleeping/procreating, limits himself to his office, shop, factory, industry or business. His boundary, though greater than a Sudra, doesn’t encompass people other than his immediate family and relatives. Today’s world seems to be predominantly full of Vaisyas.
Kshetriya – One who fights against social evil, malpractices, social injustice, corruption and bad “viruses” that engulf the society is a Kshetriya. A Kshetriya is superior to a Sudra and a Vaisya in the sense that he is service-oriented. He challenges the evil in a society. A Kshetriya cannot tolerate malpractices: bribes, giving/taking dowries, exploitation of the poor, obscenities in media that inspires rape, murder, drugs, alcohol and other crimes. A Kshetriya can be, but not limited to, an army personnel, a policeman, a news reporter or a social worker who boldly fights and voices his/her opinion against uprooting bad elements from the society. His primary goal/sankalpa in life is to protect his society from evil elements and malpractices.
Brahman- A Brahman is one whose primary goal in life is to strive for one’s soul awakening. He spreads the true knowledge of Dharma, and while elevating himself, also works for the elevation of others. A Brahman has no boundaries. For him, the entire world is his family (वसुदैबकुटुम्बकम ) and all living beings (whether plants or animals) are his own. He sees the same God residing in everyone. (आत्मवत सर्वभूतेषु ) A Brahman carries no possessions for himself. Whatever wealth or resources (his time, thought, mind, body and intellect) he has, he uses it for the welfare of the society. Human beings, having evolved through lower levels of existence, carry negative imprints (kusanskaras, कुसंस्कार - negative, inferior, undesirable imprints on the subconscious mind as a result of earlier births) which work as gravity to pull him down into low ambitions, lowly desires and negative thinking. Hence, a Brahman constantly indulges himself in Japa (mantra recitation), dhyana (meditation), satsang (company of holy men, lectures, or reading holy books), etc to constantly cleanse/wash/rinse his subtle body (his mind and intellect = chitta) from these negativities. These practices serve as a projectile that provide him the escape velocity to transcend the gravitational pull of his kusanskaras; ultimately, he settles in the infinite space of Brahma/Godhood/divinity and merges into him.
On analyzing the above castes, it is seen that only the Kshetriya and the Brahman live a serviceful life. A Kshetriya serves his society selflessly; he fights for her protection. Similarly, a Brahman also lives for the welfare of others. He constantly spreads “satgyan” (true knowledge of the self, as opposed to the school education). Hence, both live a “Yagyia” lifestyle (यज्ञियाजीवन= sacrificial lifestyle; derived from the word yagya which means sacrifice/offering), which fulfils the purpose of human life.
 
Having thus explained, it is quite clear that one cannot claim to be a Brahman by birth or lineage. Every individual is born a Sudra; the status of a Brahman or a Kshetriya has to be earned. Mere calling oneself Brahman doesn’t make one a Brahman; it will instead pollute the meaning behind the caste system itself. It is very unfortunate that, today, street vendors reading ancient Purana or even the priests we summon in our homes for Karmakand call themselves Brahmin. They are mere money-mongers who have adopted the profession of reading some holy books. A Brahmin is one who takes no money for himself; he serves selflessly. He holds true knowledge and is on the path to God-realization. Some recognize the importance of this human life and strive for a higher goal, while others don’t. This is what determines the caste of an individual; one’s caste is what his purpose is, and what he strives for.
The above castes represent four categories of people living righteously. Those who live against the norms of one’s duty/dharma/righteousness are even worse. These people have been categorized in the following castes:
Narkitak (नरकीटक) – These people have been compared to insects/worms living in a human form. They raise no voice against social injustice, corruption, and other bad practices in the society. Like helpless insects, they just keep watching, getting exploited and trampled over. They run away from their duty towards their family and society.
Nar Pashu (नरपशु) – These people, because of their immaturity in thinking, ignorance of right / wrong / ethics / morality, have been considered equivalent to animals. They like to live and acquire comfort at the cost of others. Like animals, they earn their bread by hurting, harming or killing others. Corrupt officials, thieves, robbers, misled youths, and those who spread evil / bad influence, etc. fall into this category.
Nar Pisach (नरपिसाच) – These people, like ghosts and evil spirits, enjoy to see others suffer. They like to scare others, give pain and suffering.
 
Since human life is constantly evolving towards higher goals, it is possible that an individual who is a Sudra today becomes a Brahmin tomorrow. Likewise, a Nar Pashu can become a Sudra tomorrow or vice versa. In absence of proper guidance and knowledge about the ultimate meaning/aim/purpose of life, it is not uncommon for even a Brahmin to fall down to the level of a Sudra. Hence, the meaning and purpose of life should always be sought for, so that we do not lose our tracks and evolve backwards into lower levels of existence.
-compiled from the works of Shri Ram Sharma
 

 
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Ko yo maanchhe??? yo yaaiyaad kura haru post gaarchha???....who gives a shiiaat man....we need to abolish this caste system from Nepal for ever......I dont to educate myself on the caste system that divides us all, who are these arseholes to label one caste above the other one, there should be one cast that is NEPALI.
            Risalsa judging by all your posts in sajha you are either a low life lonely  SOB or just another smartypants self acclaimed guru that feels the need to educate others about your pathetic beliefs, get a life bro/ sis.....

 
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 risalsa, thank you ... it was a good read !
 
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 Bujhne lai Srikhanda, na bujhne lai Khurpa ko Bid. Thanks Risalsa for that post
 
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Risala,
  As u clearly stated that there are four caste system in Nepal. Chhetri, Bahun, Vaisya and sudra. It always freak me when people say chhetri bahun. I'm chhetri I hate people adding my caste with bahuns .So, guys from next time only chhetri or Bahuns. No chhetri  bahun.
 
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Good read! Very informative and true to some extent. However, it would be more interesting, if we could replace the word "Brahman", just to fit in this modern society. Cuz' it arise the conflict. Just a thought ..........!!! Thanx for the post.

Keep on Rockin' !!!

 
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a very nice post risalsa sir loved to read my knowledge is increasing day by day :)
 
Posted on 04-07-11 12:22 AM     [Snapshot: 229]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ekdam ramro topic.  All [Disallowed String for - use not allowed]ii society dividing federal model believers of Maoist Nepal should know this.

 
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Very good read. So nepali politicans who have bahun surnames are actually nara pischas . I knew it
 
Posted on 04-07-11 10:16 AM     [Snapshot: 321]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Interesting and noble concept, though very widely disregarded from even before the time of Krishna.

Where exactly in Gita does Krishna propound this theory? 

If you remember your Mahabharata, Kansha was heavily discriminated, criticized, and accused of all sorts of things by Pandavs - the very dear ones of Krishna.  If Krishna advocated this noble cause, would they not have followed it too?

I believe it was Raja Santanu who started this Sanaatan Dharma that segregated the society in four barnas and so on.  Maybe he intended to make the society more efficient by allocating work as such, but I am sure his intention was more of "divide and rule".

The idea you mentioned above was actually expressed by Buddha, perhaps for the first time in then Bharatvarsha.


 
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बेदमा मनुस्यको चरित्र अनुसार बर्गिकरण गरे तर अछुत र छुतको कुरा कही गरेको छैन.
भनाइ छ नि "Das Capital" पढ्ने हरुले मुनफा खराब हो भन्लान तर अर्थशास्त्र पढेको बुझेको मनिषले तेस्को अर्थ फरक लगाउछ .
धेरै लेख हरु साझामा निक्लिए , बेद मा के के रहेनछ अनी पश्चिमेली हरु पूर्व गएर के के बुझे अनी गरे त्यो मुख्य गहन कुर हुन तर हाम्रा पुर्बेली ले बेद मात्रै फलाक्न जाने त्यो पारीधी भन्दा भित्र जानु आबस्यकनै ठानेनन अनी तेही अल्प बिद्या भयन्करी को फल हामी भोग्दै छौ ।
मुल्भुत कुरा देखी बाहिर मात्रै मा सिमित भयौ, बेदमा मनिषका आचरण को बर्णन गरेको हो मनिष लाई बिभाजन गरेको हैन? आज ब्राम्हणबाद देखी मनिष चिडिएका छन , तिनै ब्रामह्ण हरुले धर्म लाई पूजा आजामा सिमीत गरे
 धर्म बनेको सत्कार्य मा लाग्नु हो , आज धर्म मन्दिरमा गेर पूजा गर्दा अनी करोडौ भाट जनता बाट लिएको झ्वाम पार्दा बिधर्म भएन तेस्ले ब्रम्हण लाई दान दिएर पखाल्छ । 
एही पखालेर चोखिन खोज्नेको जामत को बिरुध्हमा बोल्ने हरु ले धर्मको व्याख्या कारको कर्तुत र करानीको बिरोध हो ।  
अनी कृष्ण का सम्पुर्ण गुण र अबगुण मौका मा पर्‍योग गर्दै आए । त्यो महाभारतमा विश्वामित्र मर्यो कि मरेन भन्ने कुरामा कृष्णले ठीक आजका ब्रम्हिणको पारा गरे, युधिस्टिर कहिलाई झुट्टा बोलेनन अनी भन्न् लगाए " नरो वा कुन्जरो अश्वासथमा हतो हत " मनिष हो वा पसु ( हात्ती ) मर्न चाँही मर्यो " तर त्यो खप्पिस कृष्ण ले कुन्जरो शब्द को बेलामा शन्ख ध्वनी गरेर अश्वासथमा मर्यो भन्ने बनाइ दिन्छन ।
एस्ता कृयाकलाप का ज्ञाता हरुबाट केको नौलो र समाज कल्याणका कुरा को अपेक्षा गर्नु , बेल पात निचोरेर रस निकाले झै हो ।

 
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Hindu sanatan practices were pretty much established by the rulers at the time. The rulers could rape and kidnap women and children, they could confiscate someone's property, they could practice ploygamy, prostitution and also indulge in "Som Rus" while they selected brahmins for their political propaganda and other lower castes for other shitty jobs. The rulers even declared themselves as decendents of Gods...like surya bansi and chandra bansi, and Indra bansi.

The point is, may be Krishna's logic worked around 5000 years ago but not anymore. In a modern day each and every individual has a choice to live like a Brahmin, Chetriya or Sudra. Lets judge people by their actions and not the birth caste and we will be fine.
 
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Once they did the shitty shit , it is in their brain and that is the problem we are discussing.

To be honest , if those literate bramhin did not help to the Hindu King, they would have not survived that long. On the throne, it was the king who was ruling but in reality those shitty shit  ruled stayig behind the curtain .


 
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Truly eye-opening. Thanks Risalsa. I did some reasearch on the Shri Ram Sharma (the writer of these books) through this website www.awgp.org   According to it, the writer has passed away some 20 years ago, you guys should read his books and his videos, and lectures. Sabai dherai ramro lagyo hai malai ta. Good job dude !


 
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Where do Kayastha fit in this?  Often debated.


 
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ea mula ho. k yo yesto eeuta nepali le arko nepali lai dekhna na sakeko.jatho hau timi haru ta prya america aayeko holau, ali pade lekeko manche ma parchau ai yestai kura garchau? pani marawa haru. eeuta le kunai jamana ma caste system banayo ani eeuta nepali lai arko nelai bata chuttiyo. ti mula ta padelekeka thiyenan, aafu thula huna lai 4 jat 36 barna banaye ani aafu thula vaye. tara timi haru pani ta ke kam chau. timi haru le kaunsa ramro kuro gardai chau. hami sabai le baun previledge vako dekchau. sabai ta fortunate chianan ni tapare baun le ali kati sanskrit padera timi haru ko ghar ma puja lagaucha vane tyo ta usko jagir ho, bichara garib thiyo tyhai dekeko thiyo tyhai sikyo tyhai garyo.
hari sabai le baun le kina dekhna na sakeko. dharene rai haru le yi baun chettri le garda hami pidit vayeu vanchan. ea jattho haru hau, tyetro laure vayera paisa kamauchau belayet gayera bachau, santan belayet gayera parnapauchan. ani timi haru lai k chaiiyo. khai kun chai baun chettri laure ma jana payeko cha. ladne ta ti amar sing tahap bal bhadra kuwar bhakti taha hun ni ani tini haru le belaiti haru aagari birta ko nam kamaye. kun chai rai tyha ladeko thiyo (magar chai thiye sena ma vanne suneko thiye).
anipadna ktm puggiyo. tyha pani tyhai. baun chettri lai dekhna na sakne newar haru. are yaar KTM lai rajdhani banaune ko? timro ghar ma sabai aayera baschan timlai jindaji bhar kam nai na garne, basai basi khana paune banaidinchan aani paisa bachayera america aaunapauchan ani sajha ma aayera muZZi baun vanchan. purva kam newar ta yesta hudaina.
aru kun jat ko khandan garne vana ma vanchu. ma 14 anchal ko prya sabai thau baseko chu. madesh dekhi himal samman. nepal ma kuro kateko ta bujjinthiyo, sala america aayera pani ysta kura garda alik dukkhalagcha
sabi le aafno roji roti khane bato gareka chan. kunai baun le yaha sajha ma aayera sale jyapu yesto vaneko suneka chau. mula aaba nepal kai ithas le nai baun chettri lai poltitc sikayeko ta k garun. ani k corruption hamrai des ma cha ra? tyo ta mula sabai des ma cha

 
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 @ Nepali Kanchoo:  You are an IDIOT!

Did you even bother to read the discussion.  I don't think anyone is dissing anyone here.  We were discussing, in civilized manner until you stuck your nose in, about the caste tradition and its origin here.  I don't see anything wrong here.  You are the one who is muddying the water.

Get down from your high horse and learn some manners.



 
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 kura yaha suru vayera yehi tungidaina ba. kura yo post ko matrai haina. kura yesta dherai post haru ko kuro ho. yadi timi lai maile you post ko opinion padera lekeko ho vane, i am sorry timi galat chau. sorry timropost ma maile lekeko, tara maile aru ko opinion ma mero opinion thapeko. yesta dherai post aaye tara sabai ko opinion uhi rahyo.
ekpatak malai idiot vanne aaghi sabai ko post pada ani vana. timi le ta aafno post padyeu ani aafno opinion lekhyeu ra malai idiot vanyeu. aaba sabai ko opinion parda ek pata ba.
ani tyespachi mala feri ek patak idiot vana yedi timi lai lagcha vane
 
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 Nepali Kanchoo, 

I might've been bit too harsh on my language.  I am sorry, that is uncharacteristic of me.  I apologize.

 



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