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Posted on 05-02-06 9:27 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Interesting Article posted by unknown person.

Behind the Democracy in Nepal

Believing on this, I am sharing my opinion. `As we see the situation in Nepal, anyone would think that the problem lies between the King,seven Political parties, and Maoists. And why? What each of them wants? We'd find answers for that also. One may say political parties want full-fledged democracy. Similarly Maoists want the communism, and King wants to reestablish Panchayat or something like that in other form. It may sound
weird to you at first, but I see this crisis in completely other way. This is not any kind of conflict between Nepalese themselves. This is something between India and Nepal. It's a grand and interesting game. At the same time, highly challenging for both the states.

Every one of us knows the Indian approach of trying to dominate others, especially the neighboring countries. Defense and foreign affairs related decisions of Bhutan are directly handled by India.Nothing new about it, right? Which country in the SAARC except Bhutan is happy with India?Forget SAARC, what about other neighbors? China? Burma? Mentioning these issues just to rethink on India's foreign policies! Now let us go to what's there between India and Nepal? Care to see it thru big brother's side.

India 's average economic growth rate has reached around 7.5% which is one of the best in world today. India is second largest market in the world in terms of population. Foreigners are seeing China and India as the new markets of this age and investing here rapidly. Bottom line is- India is developing. But how long people will invest in India if basic
infrastructure is not there? How much investments would be there in Agricultural industry if outsiders don't see basic irrigation facilities in the field? In other way, when other area isdeveloping, what about large Indian farmer population? When they'll prosper if irrigation is not there?

And most importantly, energy is vital for all development- industries, technology and everything. India is not capable of producing the required amount.India has successfully taken control over Bhutan's energy resources and already started to have the benefit. Bhutan is also getting something out of it but in cost of sovereignty. Now comes Nepal's part. Nepal is second richest in water resource having potential of large amount of energy. Enough energy to cater India's energy need for industrialization and irrigation and clean drinking water for eastern India (perhaps more than that). For that,India can have straight business deals with Nepal. Take it if u want, but please pay. But no! India wants all those in the way they got from Bhutan. They want to have total control in any hydro projects that'll be build in Nepal. They want to give us something out of it- lot less value than what we deserve.

Since history India has been trying for this and as it was obvious for them to get refusal. In the mean time, foreigners wanted to invest in Hydro projects in Nepal.But India always fumed and fretted for any manipulation in rivers will lead to flood in India. So, all the big projects were cancelled.

India didn't stop. They wanted to get the resources according to their desire. When Nepal refused, they came into games with long vision.What I interpret the game could possibly be as such- Change the non cooperative government of Nepal. Keep people in power that will be ready to sell the resources of the country for some money. And if required, will be ready to sell the whole country. India knew that until and unless royal family is in power, it's not possible.

This is because for the royals, Nepal is the only place in the world where they will get highest degree of respects and they'd never sell the country. For that, India played the key role to instill democracy in 2046 and implant corrupted people in the government. According to the plan, some leaders of ours sold out rivers and lands during the 15 years. That we all know.

Now India could not depend only on those dogs. For that, how to make Nepal completely helpless in shortest period? So that Nepal will come down on the ground with knees. There won't be any other option remaining for Nepal and finally turn towards India and beg them to utilize our own resources, and give some riots two feed Nepalese twice a day. Attack on the source of economy was the simplest route towards Nepal's bring down. And then something happened out of blues.

Maoists were born in western Nepal which is the hub of ayurvedic medicine and one of Nepal's major exports. The area is still under Maoists control and no one knows how much of yarshagumba is smuggled from there every year. Country's revenue is going in vain. And let us recall, it was Girija's tenure and whole Nepal knows how Maoists flourished in no time. Besides that, major objective of giving birth to Maoists was to attack the spinal of Nepal's economy- tourism. And things happened accordingly. Nepal broke and got trapped into the crisis we are seeing today.Now please don't doubt on who gave birth to Maoists. India was the first to call Maoists as terrorists when Nepal government was still calling it as insurgents. After that, US hit listed Maoists of Nepal in top ten among the world terrorists. Nepal government never called them terrorists
those days. And in many cases, we have seen Maoists leader making rounds to Delhi in the same fashion as Girija and his daughter. The recent meeting between the parties and Maoists leaders occurred in Delhi. How could India arrange the facility when Maoists are terrorists? Do they want to send a message thatLashkar-e-taiba should be entertained by governments of various nations?

And surprisingly, nowadays Indian media do not right the word "terrorists" for Nepalese Maoists. The respected word given by them these days is "Nepal rebel". This is all happening because of theslavish mentality India possesses due to 200 years of British rule.

Anyways, now let us come to the major issue. After knowing all these, I m not in a condition to agree that the dispute in Nepal is for democracy. What I believe is it is for nationality. It is for savingthe nation. It is for raising the nation with what we have. It is for replying back to all those who try to play with us. Now, it's up to your intellect to identify who is working for what. What King is doing, parties are doing, and Maoists
are doing.

It'll be a very appreciable opinion if you say what those pancheys are doing again here? We should not forget that democracy is nature's law. When you are born, you come along with your freedom. No force can stop u for that. Let's see the cause and what's happening around. Democracy within the boundary is so important? Or democracy in a country will be there when a country will b there? Let all Nepalese get together and stop the external force for some time when Nepal will try to lift up in a position from where
no force would be able to bring it down. Democracy is always there. When Nepalese can change the government in 2046, same Nepalese can change the government again in 2066. And if required, forever free Nepalese could change the system around the world. We don't have to doubt in our capability. But the current need is not "restore democracy" as India is saying.

Current need for each and every Nepali is to "save and raise the nation". When India, and other far away nations are repeatedly trying to interfere our internal matter,our corrupted media (do I have to name the media which have bosses of NonNepalese origins? Or u find it yourself) is not tired of singing their songs everyday. These Medias are responsible for creating a pessimistic environment in the nation.

People are not protesting those external interferences which are vital in present. Restoring Democracy is not the issue as far as I understand. What if democracy is restored tomorrow immediately? Same old faces who tried to help the neighbor more than own country itself will be back to power. And the process of losing the nation's independency which has been stopped temporarily through king's move will get momentum again.

But if Nepal and Nepalese succeeds to pause that external force for some more time, its strength will be minimized. Many things can happen within few years. Zest is- country first!

Now, If you don't agree on this, I m open to have your opinion. If you feel that there is some logic in what I have said, please forward it to as many Nepalese as possible. There is nothing good happening to you within 24 hours or 3 days or 1 week or so forth.

But only God knows, long term benefits could be there.
 
Posted on 05-02-06 9:49 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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This is a very nice and eye opening topic. Kindly read this---nepalese with herd mentality will never understand what really happened...

India 's ruling party intensifying problem in Nepal
Kathmandu, 29 April: The ruling party of India has been intensifying its activities of creating problems in the political scenario of Nepal despite the warning given by its opposing party BJP, who stated that, this kind of diplomatic game would risk the safety of India from the Maoist invasion, writes Janadharana weekly.

The dissimilarity in remarks made by India’s ruling party towards the political tension of Nepal was made possible due to the role of Shyam Saran, India’s Foreign Secretary.

Sources stated that, after the Palace disapproved India’s offer to provide military support to repress the people’s agitation and Maoist insurgency on the condition of providing the contract of Upper Karnali Hydro power project, a negative remark was made public by the Indian PM and its Foreign Secretariat instantly.

India is trying to affect the political conflict of Nepal to turn the nation’s situation similar to that of Sikkim or for worse like that of Bhutan.

People’s News/Kumod
 
Posted on 05-02-06 10:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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nice very very nice, but the nepalese people have been blinded by this democrazy. again, if you try to convince people that it was the manmohan dai and their indian policy against nepal, they will consider you as a royalist...lol..

i feel sorry for nepal ama and the people, we are being blind because we are looking at dhoti's mirror and they are showing what nepalese wants to see. then again, you have to look at it this way, do you think those people in the streets knows the real power of india and what they are capable of? i doubt it

BUT SOMEDAY, THEIR EYES WILL OPEN, I REALLY REALLY HOPE
 
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Nepalese are sheep.........they will never understand.... There are many bastards here in this forum too...hahah just because u like and support the King they will say u r a mandaley hahahha i don't know what that is but what do u call these bastards who r girijey or madhav chamchey and promaoists--- i guess u just call them bastards- that is the best name for them.
 
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As much has people like to believe that Nepalis are sheep, I think the bigger problem is that Nepalis are the premier Conspiracy Theorists in this world. This Article is a prime example of that. Where are you getting your facts from? Stop wasting your time by conjuring up such nonsense, don't you have anything better to do? I hope this rubbish doesn't get circulated around wasting people's time and misleading them.
 
Posted on 05-02-06 12:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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everythingzen22 is a sheep.........hahaha
 
Posted on 05-02-06 12:17 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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haawa daari..ketaharu
 
Posted on 05-02-06 12:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hey what is hawadari in it? rn't u aware of things around? why does the King who is so jhakkad give up power just because karan sing and shyam sharan come? what is girija and madhav and company cooking up with prachanda in india? well the news is given in peoplesreview.com and it's a very reliable website opened by big and respectable names in journalism like manoranjan joshi. The newspaper was started in response to nepalitimes which is funded by RAW.
 
Posted on 05-02-06 12:23 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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and their logo is "let nepal be nepal". If you r patriotic u will understand. if u r girijey chammach including promao-u wii not.
 
Posted on 05-02-06 12:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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kindly go to www.peoplesreview.com.np if u r patriotic.
 
Posted on 05-02-06 12:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The article is all based on personal opinion. WHo is Joshi? What evidence does he have? The evidence is just circumstantial. By constantly bringing India Conspiracy Theories, we are undermining the efforts of the Nepali people in restoring multiparty democracy, and the sacrifises they have made, including giving up their lives.We are also giving a cold shoulder to the oppressed and desolated people and regions of underdeveloped Nepal. The writing of a new constitution should give them new hope and expectations.
 
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hahaha u r either girijey - madhav chamcha or promao... does 20thousand people mostly brought on by maoists constitute the nepali janta???????????/
 
Posted on 05-02-06 1:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nice try! I am neither one of those. I am wholeheartedly for Peace and Prosperity.
 
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i absolutely support everythingzen22, we people are the masters of Conspiracy theories,i dunoo why we have the mentality that every bad thing that happen in our country is because of the indians although some of the points made i that article( which by the way is old cause i read a similar kind of article a long time ago) is worth looking at into, especially how India looks at handling nepal's water resources.I

India being the regional super power takes by default that it has to look out / interfere with it's neighbours matters as it will be affected if something happens, it is the same way US thinks that it being a superpower has the right to interfere with any countries internal maters if they think that it is somehow going to affect them.And i do believe that since india has so much economic ties with it's neighbours that it is in fact going to affect them.So their foreign policies are directed to bring out the best possible benifits for them , so what's wrong with that ,every country has the right the have a foreign policy that is good for them,but i make no mistakes to realize that not always these policies are good for we nepalese people, but i don't think india would go to the extent of supporting an armed conflict that too for a communist revolution that has time and again spoke as India was their primary enemy.But make no mistake that the maoist in nepal have a close relation with the naxalities in india and thats where they are getting their fire power.But as far as the government of india after aving disastarous failures in srilanka and bangladesh would not again do that in nepal. and lets not forget that india is one of our biggest donors and economic partner and without their financial and economic support it would be very difficult for nepal .

coming down to the issue of water resources i have to agree that indian policy has not been very encouraging for nepal and in at that respect maybe thay are bargaining a little more that that suits nepal. However we have to find out a solution here cause it has been ages and we should have taken advantage of our water resources by now, it is fact that we do not have the financial resources required to build dams and stuff and we need foreign investment and that the nobody is will d charity here ,anyone inerested will look for a profit so we have to find the best deal here and the people should know that foreign investment is not selling our rivers and land.i dunno what is wrong with people every time somethings seems to be building up they seem to be crying bloody murder and saying that our river s are being sold.And hey we cannot complettly ignore india in the process cause common every river in nepal flows down to india, so dams and stuff is going to affect them, imagine what will happen if india build dams in all the rivers in their side of the border , we would be flooded in dys.

well thats all i have to say.
peace out.
 
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EverythingZen22
so tell me one thing where was the peaceful demonstartion they promised and who are thoes people demonstration................when look at the pictures closer you will see who was throwing rocks who was getting hit...i dont think you have ever been on one of thoes demonstration........................ i have been in one in 1990..........well the was a real demonstration.......... now these netas pay most of them i have seen it with myown eyes ........and some of them are thretened and some of them are kates from kathmandu..............so what it comes down to is people dont even know what they are demostrating for..................... so basically these demonstrators are bali ko bakhra..............let see if the family of died demostrator even get any money that was raised in the name of them....................
and i 100% belive in babaji ...............as long as india is supressing nepal with the help of nepal netas and maoist .....................nepali people will never know what democracy is and what did they demonstrated for ...............cu girija got what he wanted and so did rest of the politician............do you think they care about people.............????
 
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>> India being the regional super power takes by default that it has to look out / interfere with it's neighbours matters

and china is ????????? you sound like dhoti's kock soccer to me...

>> coming down to the issue of water resources i have to agree that indian policy has not been very encouraging for nepal and in at that respect maybe thay are bargaining a little more that that suits nepal.

very nice of you to say this but "has not been very encouraging" still sounds like dhoti's kock soccer to me......

anyone, please speak for our country not for dhoti's benefit here....

machiknay...dhoti ko supporter haroo...
 
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Who cares who was protesting and who was paid and who was throwing rocks and who was manipulated and all that...The bottom line is the end result. Look, a democratic republic with Multiparty System is the only way Nepal will progress. At least to this point, we have major elements of a Democracy back, and a new constitution will be drawn up. The King did absolutely nothing and he desrves to be banished. You cannot look at the parties failures in the 90s to project failure again. The set of circumstances are differnt, as thousands of people have died due to the Maoist Revolution. Everybody has learnt from past mistakes.The most important thing is that the power has been granted back to the people, and there is a ceasefire. That is what we need right now, and we have to take things day by day. YOU ARE WRONG! NEpali people are much more conscious about what democracy means nowadays. People want peace. Democracy and resolving the maoist problem is the best way of going about doing that. If we can overcome the Maoist hurdle here, it will be a huge accomplishment. THat will be the starting point.
 
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"end result. Look, a democratic republic with Multiparty System is the only way Nepal will progress"
wouldnt we all like to think that. belive me i love my mother land to head towards the progress..............but.........................it wont...................untill these netas are changed................
"ho cares who was protesting and who was paid and who was throwing rocks and who was manipulated and all that"
why shouldnt we care.......see thats the sheep attitued "who cares".................
its because we didnt care thats why we had to go through same process again.........
we have to care what exactly is going on what exactly netas are working towards.......
democracy is not like VIAGRA you take it and it works..............................
we as the citizens of nepal have to care whats going on in our country and why other country is interfaring...................these are same people who said they brought democracy 14 years ago.............only differance now is they have learnt easier way to make money with help of india............................by selling our country resources.... so we need to beaware care about our country........................
Maoist is a big problem i agree its like growing cancerr for our country if we dont stop now it will spread very very deaply................this whole seize fire is just for dekhaoti...........they are recruting more people at main time....and spreading in kathmandu................wait and see.....untill spa say anything worng about them...........or something that they dont like ................they will go to the houses of innocent people and start killing and lutting..............................so we have to care who these people are ....................i hope you not gonna say who cares when they come to your house and do unwanted..........
 
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zen sounds like a superman, he will save the country, we are relying on you zen. please don't dissapoint us. ZEN is our new leader, he knows everything about nepal's politics and he is the only one who can save nepal. please give him a chance. can someone start the petition?

lol..........
 
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everythingzen22 is a SPAM ko cock sucker.... hahahha he has no brains. doesn't even care if the people were paid??? hahahhah what a donkey!

another thing hey zen were u smoking marihuana when the King introduced Nepal to WTO despite protest by girija and madhav that it's not need? were u high on drugs when the King kept the proposal for China to be saarc ko observer... now next step is for china to become member then India can no long monopolize. And were u high on drugs and also sleeping with your pros gf when the King was going to rolpa, rukum and almost every remote place to try wipe of tears of people???? Now let's see how many places girija visits as a Pm.........hahah . now don't say the King didn't do anything. He did his best but hyenas didn't let him. if u say it again u r real bastard !
 



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