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 Why Women Don't 'Make Sense'

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Posted on 02-26-05 4:37 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Artical from David D...enjoy ;))


Have you ever noticed that women don't seem to make sense AT ALL when it comes to "dating"?

What's up with that?

I'm sure you've been in a situation where you really liked a woman, and you did everything "right"... but for some reason she just never felt attracted to you.

You called her often, took her to nice places, bought her gifts, and were a complete gentleman (translation, you didn't try to kiss her, gave her space, etc.)... But nothing seemed to cause her to like you for more than just a "friend".

And I'm sure you've been in a situation where a TOTALLY HOT female friend of yours was dating a complete jerk who was mean and abusive to her... and all she did was tell you about how badly he treats her (and of course she talks about the sex too)... all the while you're sitting there and would do ANYTHING just to have a chance at dating her. Right?

What is going on here?

Why is it that when you're overly nice to a woman in the beginning, it just causes them to be less and less interested? And why is it that jerky guys who mistreat women seem to get laid like Rock Stars, even though they are the WORST possible choice for an attractive woman?

This is a fascinating question to me.

In fact, I've spent the last four or five YEARS thinking about this one and other related questions. It's funny, because when you first ask a question like this one, you can come up with some "OK" answers. But now that I've taken the time to REALLY think about it, research it, and look DEEPER into the topic, I've realized and found some FASCINATING answers. But more importantly, I've come up with ways that any guy can take advantage of the secrets that "jerks" use to attract women... without having to be abusive.

OK, so let's talk about some of these concepts that I've been working on.

I can remember when I used to call women all the time, take them out, and generally show them that I was VERY interested in them when I first met them. I was REALLY a "nice" guy. And you can guess what happened. Exactly...
They would always be nice to me, say that they appreciated what I had done, and accept my calls... BUT I NEVER SENSED THAT THEY FELT ANY KIND OF
ATTRACTION FOR ME. Something just never felt quite right. I always felt this little tension... as if the woman KNEW that I was interested, but for some reason THAT VERY FACT was the thing that kept her from feeling the same in return. It was as if the more I tried to get a woman to like me, the less she would. IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE!

Why wouldn't a woman choose to like me when I was such a nice guy?

Was it my looks? Or the fact that I didn't make a lot of money? Or that I didn't have a nice car? Well, I've since realized something.

Women don't CHOOSE at all who they are attracted to?cause ATTRACTION ISN'T A CHOICE.

Attraction is something that happens virtually on its own... WITHOUT ANY CONSCIOUS DECISION AT ALL. Most people have a hard time accepting the idea that they're not in control of themselves. I just read in a marketing book today that some experts estimate that over 95% of ALL decisions aren't made consciously. In other words, less than 5% of all the "decisions" that people make were ALREADY MADE FOR THEM by their minds, and they're just trying to pretend that it was their idea!

Well, when it comes to women and ATTRACTION, things are no different. Ask a woman why she's attracted to a certain guy, and she'll answer "Oh, he's such a sweetheart" or "He's really a great guy" or whatever. I personally believe that if you could get a woman to stop and think about it for a minute, the REAL answer would be something like "I have no fricking idea whatsoever. I just feel an emotion that makes me crave being with him, and then I justify it with my mind so I can EXPLAIN it to myself and everyone else so I don't sound crazy." Whoa. That's heavy.

But if you take a look around, it's not NEARLY as heavy as REALITY. Think about all of the women you've known who were smart, attractive, and interesting.
Now think about all of those women who dated abusive, insensitive losers who did nothing but take from them... and how the women just dealt with it and kept dating them.

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?

Well, the answer is somewhat complex. A combination of evolutionary pressures, cultural and religious programming, and the magical way the mind works creates a very unique and interesting puzzle. But let me tell you one thing about this puzzle. When you're first learning how to be successful with women and dating, you must put aside all of your past ideas and conditioning for awhile.

You have to pretend that you don't know ANYTHING about how women work... and play a little game. Instead of doing what you THINK should work, try
doing what ACTUALLY works. When you have this mindset, you'll TRY different
things, JUST TO SEE WHAT WORKS. Instead of saying "Oh, that won't work", just try it. I was out with a good friend of mine one time. We were at the mall walking around, and I was showing him how easy it is to meet women. We went into a fancy store, and walked up to a girl who was selling makeup. He started a conversation with her, and I watched. She was laughing, and he was doing fine.

But you know that point in a conversation with a woman where you both know that something needs to happen? She needed to get back to work, and he needed to either move on or ask for her information. So I walked over and said "Here, let me see your hand" (she had her left hand in her pocket, and we couldn't see if she had a wedding band on).She took her hand out, and I looked at it. Sure enough, she had a ring on her finger. But it didn't look like a wedding band to me. So I pointed at it and said "So does this ring mean something? Or is it just to ward-off dumb asses?" She started laughing.

Here's the good part...

I looked at my friend and said OUT LOUD "See, that's how you find out if she's single. I've got a line for everything..." and I laughed. Then we asked her if she had a card, and made fun of her for not having an email address... of course, my friend walked away with her info. Now, the funny part of this story is that most guys would CRINGE if they even THOUGHT of saying something like "See, that's how you find out if she's single..." etc. right to a woman's face. But she found the humor and arrogance quite funny and charming. What I'm trying to say is that you need to put aside your ideas about what women respond to when it comes to ATTRACTION... and start doing what WORKS, instead of what you THINK SHOULD WORK.


Remember, WOMEN DON'T MAKE SENSE.

If you keep trying to think about it and get them to make sense in your mind, you're going to keep going in circles and chasing your tail. Success with women really comes down to learning a new way to think about women, then combining it with the actual techniques that cause women to feel that magical emotion called ATTRACTION. Once you start using the techniques in the real world, in real situations, you start to get a FEEL for how this whole thing works. And once you start to see how successful you can be, it encourages you to start doing more "illogical" things. One of the things I'd like to mention here is that I take several HOURS to explain how and why these UNCONSCIOUS things are taking place, and how to not only overcome your own personal fears and limitations, but how to understand what's going on inside of a woman... and those things that cause a woman to feel an UNCONTROLLABLE ATTRACTION.







 
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Posted on 02-26-05 8:02 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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LOL...daddy..that was something cool.

daddyz-here...but mamaz gone. ;))
 
Posted on 02-26-05 8:36 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yasto daami article ma kasto kasaile comment na garya bhanya!!!
 
Posted on 02-26-05 8:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Rythm sis...dont forget its weekend and all are sleeping....besides that they need some sense to follow someone else's sense.. :))
 
Posted on 02-26-05 8:54 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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oh u guys its just a too much of a long-read on a topic that is not gonna make sense in the first place to read and then comment on. plus its just too early in the weekend too...may be if it was wed mornin n folks going thru the midweek work strech from work..they wud read n commet on it...right now it doesn't stand such chance.....as for me i might read it later in the week n shed some comment on...other then the one ive already made :D
 
Posted on 02-26-05 9:01 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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yeah of course we make sense....its that you guys don't seem to make sense of what we do...
 
Posted on 02-26-05 1:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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So... women like abuse, is that what you gals are trying to say?!
 
Posted on 02-26-05 1:41 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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OKI Now where did the abuse thing come from???? i think u din get the point of the article.. read it one more time
 
Posted on 02-26-05 1:49 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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*women don't make no sense* very true. Y ? I dunno, but I know they don't make sense............................Lemme try some definations, *commonsense is the sense without which all other senses are non sense* (very true). Girls don't have commonsense, so non other sense make any sense. (Testo pani huncha ra) ????????????????????????? Lau jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (huncha hola) aba bhayo re ni ta kya. Girls are beauty no sense,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, k bhaneko k bhako ma nai confuse, dhyet.


Hey did u guys sense what I'm tryinna sense, Wll the bottom line is its all nonsense. I would say noone in the universe has any sense when it comes for attraction. Good looking guys have Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk kinda girls and hot and sexies have thukka kinda guys. So no one makes sense. The whole world has no sense. The world is all full of nonsense.

Bujhne lai srikhanda, nabujhne lai khurpako bid teti bhanda pani nabujhne lai sungur ko liid. (sorry for the ones in third category)

 
Posted on 02-26-05 2:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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damm..! kya khatra Article..:)

felt like i was the one writing the article.....we always have a fren, who is going out with a guy who is abusive to her or has couple of GF's and she still likes him or rather LOOOVES him.!..and u r there just to listen to their Gan Gan and KICH KICH...nothing more..

dammn this stupid place :)

wonderfully written tho...
 
Posted on 02-26-05 2:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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One question to the guys... do you still like girls even though you know that they are dating these complete jerks..? and if yes... do u do anything by which they might come to know that you have that kind of feelings for them????
 
Posted on 02-26-05 7:24 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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> *commonsense is the sense without which all other senses are non sense*
but, harke ji, u know what... common sense is very uncommon.

now, do i make any sense if i conclude (combining your hypothesis and mine) that,
making senses is not a common thing at all... ?? :)

in that case, y do we blame women for not making sense when we dont except many of them to do so in the very first place? and the question still remains,
what about women? do they think that men really make any sense?
a man trying to figure out why a woman doesnt make sense, just doesnt make any sense to start with ...
 
Posted on 02-26-05 9:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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lol ramailo bhaira raicha........keep goin guys
 
Posted on 02-26-05 10:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hmmm cool article.. although I would have liked to see the end of it!.. insomnia and article on women.. what a combo... I think this is promoting some really healthy discussion on gender differences... First for sajha as far as I have seen!

Although some of the things the guy wrote about might be semi-true. Attraction is something I dont think either of the gender or any species for that matter can actually explain and say why it happens! In case of animals they are mostly looking for healthy babies... in case of humans with the ability to communicate and think I dont know where that goes!

The poor guy in the article sounds jilted way many times... I hope he is reading this. I do feel somewhat sorry for him! Women dont mind nice guys at all.. They just DONT LIKE PESTS... ughhh no one is going to be rude enough and tell you to your face 'disgusting pest! get away from me'... so those poor women suffer all those INSUFFERABLE dates without actually "being attracted" to the morons I mean guys!

However, I dont know why many go through being with abusiver partner phase . Seen too many to deny that it doesn't happen. Sadly enough it does!

ooh and about the part where you dont understand women or rather they dont make sense... well THEY DO... if you were not thinking like the hormone infested 18 year old in a grown man's mind and body you would actually see some sense into it! But alas! women maturing faster than men is true in all aspects (mostly mentally I mean)!

There, I think I have said enough... I think thats the most I have ever written in Sajha... hmm just thought some rational person should give the fair sex's point of view! Oddly enough, I might not make sense to many of you. Dont worry, wait another 5 years or so... sense should start kicking in by then. It not, all the prayers in the world cant save ya!

Ciao for now...
Wateva!! :)

 
Posted on 02-27-05 6:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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However, I dont know why many go through being with abusiver partner phase .
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Hmmmmm I think guys tend to abuse girls....more mentally and manipulative wise rather than physically. Looks no one one seems to make any sense to anyone in any sense. :)
 
Posted on 02-27-05 3:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Very interesting topic indeed are trying to disect a woman's mind???...forget it..its impossible..

let me disect men...

The only thing that's in their head is the obvious.sex...ahem....whether the guy is a nice one or a bad guy...

why would a girl like a bad guy?? HMM simple..women like IT as much as men do but that's not obvious. With bad guys you can always have the upperhand..F and never try again...explain to the whole world that he was never a good guy in the first place..The bad guys are the better ones ...more adventure more fun adn the more easy to get over..

what comes in package with a nice guy?? YOU've got to be nice all the time IT sucks...we're thinkin will he mind if I go forward and kiss??? what if i don't want him to hang around..what if he drops me right at the doorstep at 5 p.m.(ughhh sooo borin)...what if he says hi to mom and gives her a helping hand....thats sooo dorky and big NONONONONO

So what happens to nice girls and nice guys???? if they agree to go out that means the girl is 100 % sure ...good nice girls never want to be bad out in the public(they give the come hither signals) ...bad girls are those who defend their niceness..(they're saying,,stay away boys)

So lesson boys..when you go out the next time just be yourself...your pretents to be a rock star or MR NICEY sucks ...

as for emotioonal and physical abuses...its a fine line between barbarism and ettiquette..so choose which side you wanna put yourself in.
 
Posted on 02-27-05 10:33 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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All these stuffs are crazy...and crazy stuffs are always blind.....so better to be crazy and not blind!!!
 
Posted on 02-28-05 7:10 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Oki... I hadnt read what puppy wrote till now.. and I dont think that u can generalize girls as a whole as you did... it might be true in some cases.. but nice guys being dorky isnt always right...

well.. and gals liking bad boys coz they can have IT and then move on is SO not true.. i mean.. this is the first time I saw a gal say that.. and maybe its true in some cases.. but again.. DO NOT generalize that as everyone's response...

I think tht I would like a guy who wud give a helpin hand to mom.(infact i like guys who give a hand to moms).. and be nice.. and respect the distance.. and willing to leave u home at 5(if thats what u want).. I mean whats the biggie abt that??? and how can you know that IT sucks.. khai there always is a BAD side to a guy.. no matter how much of a good guy he is...

So as far as I think.. if the guy gives u space, makes u feel special and u think u can relate to him... does the nice guy really make a difference??
 
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As for me I want the bad boy look and attitude with the nice guy heart. Gentlemen are always preferable. Very rare to find, so we end up settling for one or the other. That's honesty. I think it has to do with age and life stages, actually. For attraction purposes in our youth we go for the "bad boys". Pisses off our parents, makes all our friends jealous. When you're ready to settle down though, wether it's just for a long, comfortable relationship, or looking for marriage and kids, you want the nice guy.

I do not believe that for a guy to be nice means that he isn't a man. That is total and utter bull sh*t. I don't know who finds that statement about nice guys not being a man as logical... that makes me wonder about some women out there...I don't like guys who are assholes either. There are many contributing factors to finding a person who you like, not just is he a good guy or a bad guy.


 
Posted on 02-28-05 7:44 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Exactly my sentiments rose sis :)
 
Posted on 02-28-05 1:55 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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lets admit it...
maybe women do make sense - sense that might be much more prudent and profound .. i am not just giving my argument here to " win the battle" among the sexes but maybe because i ve lived it myself, women assign more value to emotional issues whiile men generally dont ( you can argue sayin that i am generalising there !) maybe women and men look at different aspects of life and hence do not comprehend the way one or the other reasons...maybe the fact that the two sexes ( in general) are to compliment each other does not allow them to reason the same way..you know what i mean ?
 



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