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babajee
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Posted on 02-05-05 2:56
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Sorry, it?s a abrupt start. Actually I had written this for another thread but changed my mind so started a new thread which is crapy. There isn't any genuine thought for Gyanendra to do all this for the people of nepal.He wanted to build a powerful monarch , which had lost its power and wealth in the course of democracy,so that when he dies his murderer son will have a strong monarch. Gyanendra has made the same mistake which his Father made. If his father mahendra had not sacked the first elected government of nepal in 20016, our democracy would have come a long way and we could have seen stronger nepal not the monarch, by this time. we are unfortunate like pakistanis who never had A SYSTEM OF GOVERNING. AND, we all know that the best way of governing is the democracy. I have question for friends who POst their ideas supporting gyanendra's move, when you are supporting gyanendra's move you are supporting a autocratic sytem of governing, that means you believe in autocratic system of governing, then, why do you think you are in a foreign land where there is democratic way of governing? YOu know the answer coz you have better life out here than what you had in nepal.Why do you think nepal did not have a better life? coz , we are told that we are born inferior than some people. thats not true. Every human are created equal and he/she is the only ruler of themself . Talk about the countries where we nepalese like to migrate are those countries where there had been democracatic way of governing for long period of time. We just had two decades of democracy, altogether. Which was shadowed by the ranas in early 2007 and then dismantled by monarch in second democratic period. Lets think a long way not just at this moment. Lets not live like a chamcha but like a leader where your ideas are respected. Each of us is a great soul and we deserve to take our own decision. I think at this time when we all are heated up up for supporting Gyanendra or Maoist. These both are the autocratic system of governing. we should not be( but we have own freedom) divided between mao or gyanendra. the thing is, whether we want a democratic system of governing or a autocratic way of governing. Whether we support King Gyanendra or Maoist doctrine, we are supporting the same thing, the Autocratic way of governing. The doctrine given by Mao five decades ago does not apply in this modern world and the concept of ruling a country under censorship does not fit either. It's not give Gyanendra a chance but lets have faith in democratic way of governing . It does go through a lot of HIT AND TRIAL methods but eventually it will bring a new dawn. Love you all. triratna
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Posted on 02-09-05 7:32
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?a country and the state head does what the majority of the people want?, Harkedai harkedai, we share a very vast difference on couple of things and share similarities in couple tooo. Let me enlighten you a country is a peaceful country if only it is ruled under laws. the constitution is what guides us to abide by the rule of law. So the constitution of a country is the head of a state not a person who is a murderer, smuggler and a short sighted. ?If my memory supports me, India said that its not going to interfer in Nepal's internal affair, and I haven't seen much of "ACTIVE" international pressure on King G. This is because of the fact that the people in the country are happy and have high expection from big G then the small G (Girija).?, harkedai This is the irony of present situation that India and usa is supporting king G. But let me tell you at this point which you will remember for, when India seals indo- Nepal border, just like rajiv Gandhi did . India and usa are supporting King G just because those democratic countries doesnot tolerate even the shadow of communitst. Extremist communist ko ta kura nagarau. Maoist are the extremist communist who are literally enemy of India and usa. Those countries are supporting King G just to get rid of maoist. Once maoist is uprooted( if happened) India and usa will be the very first country to advocate against dictatorship in a country in 21st century. King G very well knows the fact and will never let maoist problem to solve in Nepal. So your dream of Nepal being a peaceful country under King G?s leadership will be all shattered. King G will act just act as the Pervez Musharraf who catches a dozen of terrorist and says he is leading a war against terrorism. It will be the same with King G, he won?t let maoist problem to be solved coz that is the stair to him. ?You have already accepted that the politicians did not took the spirit of democracy seriously, so what would you think the people would do, then to kick their a$$ out.?, harkedai Harkedai dai, here you say that people should kick the a$$ out the corrupt leader and this is where we share similarity. People should kick a$$ of the corrupt leader not a person, not the king. WE want rule of people not of a person.
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:11
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Well babajee, what every u have said is very true, when we have the peole run by the system not system run by the people. Nepal ko constitution ko nai kura garda, nepal ko constitution le kati jana neta lai samatyo ? Kati jana lai ghuskhori gareko pramanit garyo ? Tehi nepal ko nai sambidhan hoina, whose article 127 was used y king. So what happened to the constitution. Nepal ma dherai agadi someone said, i think u know who said so, "Nepal ko sambidhan bhaneko kaagaj ko khosto matra ho" which is used by the politicians and the head of state for their own use. Babajee nepal ma sambidhan ko paalana kati bhako cha ? Do you have any statistics on this ? Actually nepal's constitution is one of the best in the world, but sadly nepalese didn't understand a single word of it. Sambidhan ma check and balance ko sabai kura haru chan, they were always present there, but did it happen. Nepal ko one of the most popular ukhan "Nepal ko kaanun banaune le nai jaanun." It is very true. Did we ever cared to follow the law of the coutry. Kathmandu ma kati jaana sanga drivers liscence cha ? Do u think all of them went through all the process listed in the papers of law ? It is just an example a very simple example. Hami nepali nai hoina kaam chito garna lai ghus dine ? Do we follow the rules. Aba support ko kura garda, tapai le sarai raamro kura garnu bho, kina India le ra usa le chup laagera basyo bhanera. Tapai lai Nepali chai kina chup laagya jasto laagcha. Do you think majority of the people don't know about who is ruling the country. Every one is aware, including me. Nepal ma nepali ko laagi yeuta multiple choice question cha. *Nepal ma kolle saasan gareko herna chahanu huncha ? a) King b) Maoist c) The same old a$$ holes (netas) d) all of the above (it was going on) e) none of the above (no one knows what this is gonna be like) What would be ur answer for this question ? Y can't we wait like India and USA r doing ? I believe something is better than nothing "when we don't have any thing to loose y don't we gamble once again" Jai nepal
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:21
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check this out http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0502/S00118.htm
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:26
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"shock and awe" re muji. nepal lai pani iraq banaune surmaa chha yiniharu jammai.
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Posted on 02-09-05 8:44
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Harke dai, i think you might be true, but he thing is not about gambling. 2007 sal mah prajantra aayo 2016 sal mah khosiyo 2046 sal mah prajatantra ayo 2005 mah feri khosiyo. ruling a country is not like playing cat and a hat game. It is about institutionalizing a system of governing, and democracy is the best way of governing. maoist, political parties, people and king should be like salt and vinegar in chips. You cannot go to a peace talk with weapons on your arm.
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hwy republic
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Posted on 02-09-05 9:24
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ye samanti Raj pariwar lai france ko raj pariwar jastai itihaas ko pana ma matrai simit banaunuparcha. they should be slaughtered one after another in khulamanch.
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Posted on 02-09-05 9:56
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ganatantra ko bela bhako chaina HWY republic dude, Its time for rajtantra.
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Posted on 02-10-05 9:33
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Tuborg bro, republic ko belo aahele hoina bhane k Gyane le desh ko sara sampati gutmutayera china ma asylum seek garna gaye pachi huncha ta. These proponent of samanti should be slaughtered in khullamunch.
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Posted on 02-10-05 9:36
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ha ha ha ha babajee 2046 ma aayo. 2005 ma khosiyo? 2005 ma ki 2061 ma??
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Posted on 02-10-05 4:12
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Newuser jee you got be, right on. my bet. 2007 sal mah prajantra aayo 2016 sal mah khosiyo 2046 sal mah prajatantra ayo 20061 mah feri khosiyo. ruling a country is not like playing cat and a hat game. It is about institutionalizing a system of governing, and democracy is the best way of governing. maoist, political parties, people and king should be like salt and vinegar in chips. You cannot go to a peace talk with weapons on your arm.
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Posted on 02-10-05 4:20
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Or the Maoist have to win over Ganendra's army like the Sandanista Communist rebels won over American supported Pres. Samoza of Nicaragua in 1979 after almost 2 decades of struggle.
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babajee
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Posted on 02-10-05 4:30
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Bhrasta netaa jee, herdai janus this dictaror of 21st century will not be supported by anyone expect china.
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Posted on 02-10-05 4:35
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Babajee Well, the Sandanistas came to power with great glory however they were defeated in elections in 1990 . The socialist rule of Sandanistas came to an end after roughly 10 years after they came to power with great glory in Nicaragua.
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babajee
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Posted on 02-10-05 4:44
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netaa jee, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'm gonna do some more research my self. have a great evening.
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Posted on 02-10-05 4:51
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It's neither Democratic, nor Autocratic... It's Dramatic... (Democratic + Autocratic) bye.
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Posted on 02-10-05 4:57
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kalankisthan dude that was funny lol desh ma nautanki nai bhaira cha jhole
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Posted on 02-10-05 5:05
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Hey guys, hardedai is back, Exactly babajee, that's exactly what I am trying to say. No one wants cat and hat games. Neither you nor me, i think even 20 million nepalese don't want it. Now, as I have been saying from a very very long time, what is that, which can bring this game to halt, a complete stop. All those bloody netas ? Maoist ? if u think so u must be drunk. What is the option left ? King. Do you see any other option ? I don't see. Its easy to make a dream democratic government but do u see the possibility at the present, in reality. I don't see any possiblity. I asked all of you a question, its a multiple choice question for all the nepalese. *Nepal ma kolle saasan gareko herna chahanu huncha ? a) King b) Maoist c) The same old a$$ holes (netas) d) all of the above (it was going on) e) none of the above (no one knows what this is gonna be like) What would be ur answer for this question ? I appriciate all of your participance. o;sf] pQ/ lb+bf oyfy{sf] w/ftndf pleP/ pQ/ lbg'xf]nf, g ls :jKg ;+;f/sf] /dfO{nf]df e'n]/ . Jai Nepal
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Posted on 02-10-05 5:08
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Jhole sir, i don't think "dramatic" is supposed to mean "nautanki" I suppose it is suppose to mean "irony". Might be I am wrong but i don't see any thing to laugh at the irony of our country and our people.
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Posted on 02-10-05 5:20
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Harkedai , present situation of our country kasailai nautanki lagla bhane kasai lai chai irony. Ahile bikasit hudai gaya ka ghatana kram herda ta malai ta lagcha thula nautanki huadai cha rastriyata, rastra jogaune naam ma ani janata lai uniharu ka maulik hak adhikar diilaune bhandai. jhole
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Posted on 02-12-05 6:31
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WHich one of the following you want? Plz vote: 1> Nepal annexed in indian territory 2> Nepal annexed in chinese territory 3> Nepal being colonized in the american territory 4> Nepal , remained as a sovereign country , but a failed unstable state 5> the himalayan kingdom, with constitutional monarchy and multiparty democracy which option is the best for nepalis to live in PEACE???? AJSABo1 Yesterday, I would have choosen no. 5 Today I've got the 6th option. A succesful republican state, with no Gyanendra, no Girija, No Makune, No Prachande, No panche but all of us. Newuser - http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/feb/10swadas.htm - Ktmdude - (1) Does not "get" democracy. Talks all Mahendra talk when talking about political parties and the democratic experiment. (2) Inflexible on many counts, especially in opposing any possibility of a Constituent Assembly. (3) Cunning, not magnanimous. (4) Doubled royal budget after sacking Deuba first time around. That is brahmaloot, much larger what the Congressias did in the 1990s. (5) Surrounded by lackeys and yes-men, a small clique, holdovers from the Panchayat Paramendra Help will arrive by ground tomorrow....... ________________________________________ nice Posted on 02-08-05 1:33 AM Reply | Notify Admin Help is coming......... soon ________________________________________ nice Posted on 02-08-05 1:34 AM Reply | Notify Admin Help is moving......... ________________________________________ nice Posted on 02-08-05 1:40 AM Reply | Notify Admin Milita in Trainning Far East........... Coming Nice
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