Advocates for Ajay - Stop the Injustice
We are commenting here as we heard the story in past and present and depending upon our mental status as well how we process our thoughts.
We do not know the exact story and their family dynamic and the real inside story but we heard the superficial story as it broke it and we became the juror in favor to convict and against not seeing enough evidence to convict.
The verdict was solely based on the tape conversation between the girl and Ajaya( she may be abused by him or may be because of her behavior she was taken to Nepal and in anger she was trying to take the revenge or it might be mix of both, we do not know the truth ).
Lets be indifferent, as per NAS's comments on other thread, she had been not telling the truth and certain evidence was lied and does not favor her? If that is the case she may had fabricated?
The wrong doer must be punished but the question is who is right/innocent and who is in guilt/wrong, we do not know.
And Please, do not comment absurd like she is not her own daughter and had consensual sex, even she lied her aged during the adoption but still she is her adopted-daughter, the relation must be maintained and must follow the law and rules otherwise punishable. Guilt person must be punished.
The idea of adopting a child (anyone under 18) with the prime motive of tax advantage and the motive of being adopted for immigration benefits got completely overwhelmed when indomitable gush of testosterone decided to take over. And as they say "once you pop, you can't stop", the occurrences continued either mutually or forcibly each time.Had the child carried the same DNA as the accused and had the accused seen the accuser grow up right from a baby into a budding woman, a certain level of natural parental bond would have been formed. (Has anyone of you run across any true story in which a brother and a sister had been separated for most of their childhood and reunited during youth only to form a incestuous relationship? My understanding is early childhood is probably the best time to create bonds with your family members - may be even for adoptive ones. Do not quote me on that; I used the keywords like "probably" and "may be" and I am not a psychologist by profession.) Biologically speaking, in this Ajay Dev case, the sexual relationship is not even incest. It appears that Ajay Dev is guilty but more than three hundred years of sentence is a joke to the firm stance of the US Government when it comes to human rights at places as far as the other side of the globe while it lags so much behind at its own turf. Some racist jurors could not stand a brown man married to an all-white American woman, perhaps. Jurors probably thought they can easily get away with such a harsh sentence. A rape and murder convict would probably get a lot less harsh sentence.
Last edited: 12-Aug-10 10:52 AM
Someone above wrote that the whole adoption thing might have been a facade to bring the girl to the US. And that was the context in which I made the comment because the adoption seems fake because why would you adopt someone when they are 15 yr old instead of adopting someone as an infant because in my opinion it's not the same thing.
And painting him as a saint? You are surely making things up here. I thing he deserves a re-trial. If saying that is same as painting him as a saint then I have to admit you are a creative genius.
If I may .....
What I can infer from the discussion above is the obvious - We, nepali guys, are misogynists: consciously or sub-consciously. We are ready to give benefit of the doubt to an male ADULT merely citing his uncontrollable hormones. However, the fault lies in the 15 year old, who planned deliberately all these years to reap the benefit of a US citizen. Hence, he's the victim and she's the culprit. Just like in all the aspects of our society, its always HER fault. Bravo!
Go and read it again it says "A Nepali is in prison possibly for crimes he did not commit. There needs to be another investigation into it."
and I pasted the petition underneath it
Anyways, I think we are done arguing about your personal conclusions here.
gurung ji remember one thing. If you argue with a fool, you become a fool.
Go and read it again it says "A Nepali is in prison possibly for crimes he did not commit. There needs to be another investigation into it."
It should be morally wrong and illegal to have sex with an adopted child but Ajay Dev, an engineer by profession, seems to have been in a weak state of mind both when he finalized his decision of adoption and when he decided to have sex with the accuser.You know why the state of California finds itself in such a dire fiscal situation?Here are some of the ill-conceived things that are happening there:1) California Assembly approves $20 million for Jaycee Dugard (Read the blog too by Clicking Here so that it does not sound lopsided on my part)2) Proposed California law would sanction cities that pay excessive salaries (Read the blog too by Clicking Here so that it does not sound lopsided on my part)3)Ajay Dev gets sentenced for more than 300 years when it's not even a murder case and I am sure there are a lot of other cases like this. Taxpayers will be handed the check when it is time to pay.4) The Pay Behind The Curtain
Cities leave out key details about employee compensation
in the scandal-spawned quest for transparency
By
Jake Armstrong
08/12/2010
Hoping to quell growing outcry spawned by the Bell salary and pension
scandal, cities across the state raced last week to pull back the
curtain on employee compensation for an increasingly agitated public.(Click here for the whole article).. and on and on..
This is flaw if US judiciary system.
rape and murder convict get less punishment than Consensual sex with minor(paper minor). At least i do not believe he raped, and 700 times ? it ridiculous, She is really whore and i know these bitch are very cruel . When i read this news first, i thought she is innocent but after through study, i conclude Mr. DEV is victim and criminal ( whore) got paid.
She was minor in paper(it is no big deal to change date of birth in Nepal) and She is fake adopted daughter. His wife is supporting him means he might never had sex also.
I would sign , let me know what can i do for case to reopen
Antiracist thank you for your timely suggestion. I will take your advice :)
I'm about to puke at newlynew now
lets stop the discussion and lets come to the main point. JUST SHUT THE F**K OFF AND F**ING SIGN THE PETITION IF YOU GUYS THINK IF HE NEED A RE TRIAL.
I'm not signing anything until I hear the tape. Those days of doing everything just simply someone is Nepali are long gone, in this case both are Nepali. If you have nothing to hide and fear, let us hear the tape...as our old saying goes....Milk to Milk and Water to Water.
I wonder if it's possible to get a copy of the tape that is marked at evidence. Without hearing the tape it is difficult to make any guesses.
Yeah if you guys can get a copy of phone conversation tape, please let us know.....that would clear a few things, not only the dialect but from tones and all.
I feel that the guy was convicted with not enough evidence and support. There seems that the victim lied about some of the things too. I am not saying the guy is not guilty and i am not supporting the rapist but i think he was sentenced not with justice. I am signing the petition for re-trial.
I have been observing this issue. In one point may be Ajay had done something he should not be doing but in the other hand as new things are coming up made me think twice. Now I am thinking something is not right in this case.
Hypothetically: I am not trying to degrade any body. As students from high school steps in college some of them may not able to cope the freedom. Similarly girls may be overwhelm by the freedom and she may had accompanied with wrong people which may have fueled Ajay and was unable to stop her and he may be the victim? Or after knowing all this he may has some involvement too? Once she was in Nepal, Ajay did not wanted to bring her back may took it in different level and my be some conspiracy from either side?
Any body in her place will be extremely mad and frustrated. . She may have in the same anger during the conversation which has been taped. Those word may mean it or just an expression of frustration but it is the one took toll on Ajay.
Justice must prevail.
only 412 so far 500 is the goal to get this man another chance at justice
Friends few more petitions to reach the goal of 500.
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