The hidden history of Nepal

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grgDai

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The shah bansh is full of deceit. They are traitors and backstabbers literally.

Mr. Hyde

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To pick up where Guru2012 left off, the Rana regime proved to be a strong ally of the British hegemony culminating in Jung Bahadur's maiden voyage to England to affirm his allegiance to the British monarchy and helping crush the Indian Rebellion of 1857. That Sepoy uprising is considered the first campaign of Indian independence.

Why was/is there a modern Indian grudge against the Shah Dynasty?
With the Gurkhas under the clear order from the Ranas to put down the rebellions, the Independence of India was deferred until 1947. Meanwhile in Nepal, the DNA splicing between the Shah figureheads and Rana clans continued with so much vigor that it became difficult to tell a Shah from a Rana just from appearance or sensitivities. After 1947, I am certain the Ranas increasingly found themselves in uncomfortable seats with respects to the Indian Government. Did some wise Ranas foresee the British Raj coming to an end in the near future so as not to completely take over the Shah monarchy in Nepal so instead stuck to Shree 3?
The Indians will forget the Ranas' close association with the British Raj with the passing of time, so they thought. May be that's why the Shumsher PMs with such psyche continued attaching "Ja. Ba. Raa" at the end of their name. Not suprisingly, the end of the Rana regime traces it beginning back to Nepalese students "studying in India" which led to the dawning of the Panchayati rule. The Shah kings thought that the Panchayati rule was a free (and nice too) gift from those Nepali students in India at the latter's expense. The disagreement eventually led to imprisonment of BP Koirala and other prominent democratic leaders. The entire cabinet of Raja Mahendra consisted of his close Rana and Shah kins and "Yes" men and you know the rest is (recent) history as they always say. The power struggle continued, still continues and will perhaps continue.
To the ones who once stayed in power including Saddam Hussein, I hope you all enjoyed it while it lasted. At least, I am not one who holds a grudge against the Shahs or Ranas unlike the Indians who do.

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Pabelohoney

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Thanks for posting.

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Geology Tiger

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ईतिहासकारहरु कसरी आफ्नो सोच र चाहना अनुसार मनगढन्त काहानीहरु मिसाएर वास्तविक ईतिहासलाई बंगाउन सक्छन् भन्ने कुराको एउटा राम्रो उदाहरण हुनसक्छ माथि प्रस्तुत नेपालको ईतिहास। जब ईतिहासलाई एक पक्षिय रुपमा बढाई चढाई प्रस्तुत गरिन्छ त्यसको विश्वसनियतामा स्वाभाबिक रुपमा शंका पैदा हुन्छ। माथिको ईतिहास सर्सर्ती पढ्दा लाग्छ यी ईतिहासकार जसरी पनि काठमाडौंका तत्कालिन मल्ल राजाहरुलाई राम्रो देखाएर गोर्खाका शाह राजाहरुलाई कुनियत भएका राजाहरुको रुपमा प्रस्तुत गर्न चाहन्छन्। स्कूल पढ्दाका दिनहरुमा मैले जुन ईतिहास पढे त्यो पढ्दा लाग्थ्यो पृथ्वीनारायण शाह जस्तो असल, सहासी र जनता प्रेमी राजा नेपाली ईतिहासमा अरु कोही छैनन्। तर जब मैले स्कूल र कलेज बाहिरका किताबहरु पनि पढ्न थाले अनि मैले थाहा पाए कि उनले धेरै नराम्रो काम पनि गरेका रहेछन् र हामीलाई स्कूलमा पढाईएको ईतिहास अपूरो रहेछ। यद्दपी नेपाल राष्ट्र निर्माणमा पृथ्वीनारायण शाहले खेलेको भूमिकाको म सदैव प्रशंसा गर्छु र पक्का पनि उनीबाट नराम्रा भन्दा राम्रा काम बढी भएका छन् भन्ने विश्वास गर्छु।

जबसम्म एउटा ईतिहासकारले कुनै पनि घटना र ब्यक्तिको बारेमा लेख्दा तटस्थ भएर भएका राम्रा र नराम्रा सबै कुरा खुलाएर लेख्दैन कि त त्यो भजन हुन्छ कि त मिथ्या निन्दा हुन्छ। जसरी यी ईतिहासकारले कप्तान किन्लोकको नेत्रित्वमा भएको युद्द सब नाटक हो भनेका छन् त्यो पढ्दा ईतिहास खोतल्न सक्ने उनको क्षमताप्रति शंका पैदा हुन्छ कम से काम अङ्रेजहरुलाई त्यस्तो नाटक गर्नु पर्ने कुराको आवश्यकता मैले देखेको छैन। अर्को भुल्न नहुने कुरा मल्ल राज्यको पतनको कारण पृथ्वीनारायण शाहको चातुर्यता र मल्ल राजाहरुको सोझोपना मात्र थिएन, मल्ल राजाहरुको आपसमा रहेको खिचातानी र एक अर्कामा कायम असहयोग पनि प्रमुख थियो। तर ईतिहासकारले यो बिषयमा केही पनि बोलेका छैनन्। नरभूपाल शाहको माटोको सिँहासन भन्ने कुरा पनि कता कता नपच्दो छ, कम से काम काठको भनेको भए पनि एउटा कुरा हुन्थ्यो।

मलाई कहिले काँही अचम्म लाग्छ कसरी एउटै घटनालाई विभिन्न ईतिहासकारहरु फरक फरक ईतिहासको रुपमा प्रस्तुत गर्छन्, तर रमाइलो कुरा के भने उनीहरु सबैसँग आफ्नो ईतिहासलाई प्रमाणित गर्ने प्रमाण पनि हुन्छ।

dhhirajojha

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what a load of rubbish....after all the book was written by indian twat!!!!

bhikhaari

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हेर सबै गुलेहरू स्व-घोषित इतिहासकार बन्न दौडेका!

syanjali

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पद र सत्ता प्रप्ती पछी सामन्त बन्न पुग्छ, जस्को मुल उद्देस्य देश भन्दा पनि ब्यक्तिगत स्वार्थ सबै भन्दा उपल्लो स्तरमा रहन्छ। शाह र राणा हरुले एक कुरा भने बिर्सिएनन जस्तो लाग्छ , यो देश भएन भने हामीले कहाँ र कस माथी शासन गर्ने!

तुलना गर्नुस् आजका सत्ता भोगी र पुराना शाह र राणा BRATS हरुमा, आजका नवसामन्त हरुलाई देश नभए पनि सिद्दान्त रहीरहन्छ अनी भारतमा देस बिलयभए पनि जन्मा जन्मान्तर राजनीति गर्न पाउने कुरामा निर्धक्क छन, नत देशको माया छ जनाताको कुरै छोडौ .

ईतिहास थोरै तथ्य कुरा र धेरै लेखका दिमागी उपज हरु हुन्छन, तेही महाभारत को उल्था हुँदै जाडा जुन बिषय बस्तु Original मा थियो अरुमा छ् जस्तो लाग्दैन।
कती विश्वाश गर्ने त्यो ईतिहासकारको credential हेरेर अनी पाठक आँफैमा पनि भरपर्ने कुर हुन जस्तो लाग्छ मलाई .

Ved555

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Indians know about these facts discussed in the above article.. so I think they are very afraid of newars of anceint Nepa (Kathmandu Valley). Other Khas-Bahuns are considered "indians" by India. And India will also have tough dealing with Matwala and other indigenous people. This article could be a waking call to the newars....

Geology Tiger

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Mr. Ved555, I appreciate you ability of guessing but also want to tell you that this is the way how people make false history, by guessing! However, you are right that I failed to get position in the career that I initally chose. But that was not engineering but medicine. So one kind suggestion for you don't assume that all geologists have chosen geology because they failed to get position in engineering otherwise you will be also like that story (history)- teller. One more thing I don't feel bad that I couldn't get into engineering field. I love my work but I have respect for all others' work. There is no single person or single group of people carrying the whole world in their shoulder. Lastly I have already admitted the flaw on the historical documents I read in my early days so I don't need further explanation from you.

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Ved555

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Can we have more on hidden history of Nepal.... ?

guru2012

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hello Rationale.. the khas-bahunistic outrage displayed by you is not new in sajha. Your intimidation tactics is not going to work anymore now.

dalle_momo

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Definitely not a Legit Post !

sUp

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lol at (Company subsequently sent 15 very strong men under the command......)para 15

rationale

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guru2012, khas-bahuns gave your ancestors very hard time. They came to your land. They beat u up. Took over on u. They made your ancestors do what they wanted. OMG!! they made your ancestors learn Khas bhasa. Darn! what a crime. How could you people only express your thoughts in Sajha and be happy? You know what......you all suppressed people should go back to Nepal, unite against khas-bahuns, give them hard time. You all should go ahead and fight back with them. Undo Nepal back into 22se 24se rajya. Take your chunk of land and settle there. Pritivi Narayan Shah did the worst job of uniting Nepal. This has to be undone. Happy now??

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guru2012

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Why are you guys getting so scared? Remember what Maxix Gorky wrote in one of his literary works: To see far future you have to climb past mountain.