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This is a new thread where we shall discuss about various ancient, medieval and modern human civilizations which have paved the way for us to be in this stage. The ancient Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Chinese, Indian, and Mesoamerican and many more civilizations are quite fascinating and intriguing to know and read about. For now, I have just included a pic related to this. I would continue this thread in the coming days. pic source: http://www.crystalinks.com/ancient.html

iZen

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An excellent idea!!! world_map, What's the genesis? Prehistory or Bigbang.Civilizations,genesis ought to be Mesopotamian.Your thoughts.Wake me up when we arrive at indus-river?

Moneyminded

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excellent, life ma first time mero intrest ko thread suru gare cha i-zen keto le......la ahile time chaina...aba how all these are connected to each other bhane ma ma pani kehi contribute garne chu...and continetal drift ko asar pani kura garne chu civilisation...ani myth of atlantis ko pani kura garu la...tara pachi

iZen

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Moneyminded, The credit is due to World_map.World_map,when are we reloading the thread with the civilized world. Moneyminded,I assume you were intoxicated when you wrote 'keto'.Do you booze all year long in Hongkong?

world_map

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Sorry friends, I was a bit busy today, so could not reach sajha on time. Ok, as said by izen, we will make Mesopotamia the genesis. ?Mesopotamia? is a Greek word which means ?land between the rivers?. The Mesopotamian civilization flourished between the fertile alluvial soil of Euphrates and Tigris rivers which was spread from modern day Iraq to some parts of Syria. Earliest communities first settled to the north, but as rainfall was so unpredictable, by 5000 BC, most of the population had moved to the south. In the third millennium, the alluvial plains south of modern day Baghdad were called Sumer and Akkad. Sumer is the southern part whereas Akkad is the northern part where the Tigris and Euphrates rivers come nearer. In the second millennium, the two regions came to be jointly called Babylonia. The Mesopotamians built massive temples or ziggurats, in which the priestly class resided, the human representatives of God. Those priests controlled the religious life of the community, economy, land ownership as well as the long distance trade of the country. Mesopotamia eventually disintegrated into many powerful city-states, which were self- sufficient. Though those city states depended largely on each other economically, they remained strongly isolationalist. This tendency of isolationalism led to the formation of twelve different Mesopotamian states. Ok, this is a quick overview of Mesopotamia, but still lot more remains to be explored. The research and composition takes a bit of time. So, I will continue when I get ample of time. If you have more information and would like to continue, please do. Sources: http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/sarasvati/html/mesopotamia1.htm http://www.historyguide.org/ancient/lecture2b.html image source: http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/aencmed/targets/maps/mhi/T012827A.gif

world_map

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"Marie statue" of Mesopotamian origin:-

iZen

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Many thanks,World_map. Is there any relevancy among Mesopotamian civilization and Islamic civilization? Thanks in advance

world_map

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Izen, as I read somewhere, just after a year of Mohammed?s death, his successors securely held Arabia to invade Byzantine Empire and Persia. They defeated Byzantines in 635 AD in Damascus, which led to subsequent invasion of Mesopotamia, which had remained largely Arab ethnically. Persia was also defeated in the hands of the Muslims and the people were converted to Islam. Conversion was rapid in urban regions while slower in rural areas, where the peasantry did not converted completely until the ninth century. I have included the image of cuneiform, a wedge shaped form of writing developed by the Sumerians:- Image source:- http://www.historyguide.org/images/cuneiform.jpg

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Kudos!!! चित्रेले उँधोतिरै जो चईनी चार धाम घुमाम्नी, तिर्थ-व्रत गराम्नी काम पाछन् भनेर गामको चौतारीमा अस्तिनै भबिसेबानी अरेको चईनी मैले भनेको त साँच्चिकै पुगेछ त ;) Such an interesting thread, world_map,Keep it up!!! Keep rolling...

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Nice and informative topic to start with...Thanks Mr world_map...Been facinated by the ancient civilizations when I took history I....would love to refresh my memory.... Thanks again World_map..:)

iZen

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World_Map, What is your opinion on dark days of civilizations?Didn't mean to derail your civilization on the chronological order?My limited understanding on civilizations have tilted my views more towards the health of civilizations per se. Why do civilizations go through cycles like an individual's life time?Islamic civilization is credited for preserving classical papers of Socrates,Plato and Aristotle.The genesis of western civilizations which I believe still dominates most of the western mind.Whatever happened to their high days?Renaissance in Europe was the wake up call for the westerners.Do all the deteriorated civilizations like our in the present need renaissance?Personally,I think inorder for the society to leave behing the darkest hours,renaissance can be the most imporatant tool.Your thoughts.

web009

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please.....keep this thread alive..

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It is not Islamic civilization preserved the works of Plato, Socrates and Aristotle. It is the Romans. Coz Romans defeated the Greeks in around 500 BC but didn't destroy what they had. In fact, they even copied and acknowledged the Greeks and their culture. And Muslims in Europe were far later than the fall of the Romans. Roman empire in the West was destroyed by the Barbarians from the north, mostly Germans (around 100 AD) and in the East until the defeat of Constantinople by the ottoman Turks (around 1400 AD). Renaissance was a period in the western history before or in the beginning of the so called modern history and after the Medieval ages or the so called dark ages. It is between or around 1400 AD to 1600 AD.

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Here is the most recent Ancient Egypt Timeline Compiled by Dr John Baines, Professor of Egyptology, University of Oxford ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3100-2950 BC - Late Predynastic Period Earliest known hieroglyphic writing Foundation of the Egyptian state 2950-2575 BC - Early Dynastic Period (1st-3rd Dynasties) Creation of the capital city of Memphis Intensive contact with Palestine The first pyramid is built - the Step Pyramid at Saqqara 2575-2150 BC Old Kingdom (4th-8th Dynasties) The Great Pyramids are built at Dahshur and Giza Pyramids and elite tombs include the first extensive inscriptions 2125-1975 BC 1st Intermediate Period (9th-11th Dynasties) Egypt splits into two smaller states, ruled from Memphis in the north and Thebes in the south 1975-1640 BC Middle Kingdom (11th-14th Dynasties) Mentuhotep reunites Egypt Amenemhat I founds a new royal residence near Memphis Egypt conquers Lower Nubia under Senwosret I and III Classical period of art and literature 1630- 1520 BC 2nd Intermediate Period (15th-17th Dynasties) Hyksos kings seize power in the north Theban 17th dynasty in the south

Birkhe_Maila

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1539-1075 BC New Kingdom (18th-20th Dynasties Egyptian empire in Near East and Nubia Elaborate tombs of the Valley of Kings Rule of woman pharaoh Hatshepsut King Akhenaten attempts to introduce a monotheistic religion Brief reign of Tutankhamun Ramesses II rules for 67 years 1075-715 BC 3rd Intermediate Period (21st-25th Dynasties) Disunity and Libyan settlement in Egypt Nubians conquer Egypt (late 8th century) 715-332 BC Late Period (20th-30th Dynasties, 2nd Persian Period) Egypt conquered briefly by Assyrians Cultural revival under kings from Sais Persian conquest of Egypt (525 BC) Egypt independent again (404-343 BC) 332 BC-395 AD Greco-Roman Period (Macedonians, Ptolemies, and Romans) Alexander the Great occupies Egypt Alexander's general, Ptolemy, becomes king and founds a dynasty The Rosetta Stone is carved (196 BC) Cleopatra VII reigns (51-30 BC) Egypt becomes a province of the Roman Empire (30 BC) Source:http://www.timelineindex.com and BBC History

Chatmandude

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Can somebody list all the Chinese dynasties chronologically.

Birkhe_Maila

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Chatmandude, here's a link http://www-chaos.umd.edu/history/time_line.html

Chatmandude

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Thanks a lot, my friend.

MatrixRose

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Civilzations seem to flourish and slow down as time passes by. They thrived during a certain time period and faded away while others took the stronghold later on. One more intriguing and interesting aspect of civilization is it originated in one part of the world but its customs and innovations got transferred and deeprooted in other parts of the world. The Greek civilization can be taken as the base of human development, that paved the way for other civilizations to enrich the field of philosophy, politics, theology and even science and technology. While the western world boasts so much about their superiority over the rest of the world, they could reign over others only after they copied the ways of life from rest of the civilizations. Just going back to the 14th or 15th century the South Asian subcontinent on the heart of Indus valley civilization, I guess, was no less better than the western world at that time. While Europe and America has very little to show about their ancient heritage, Nepal's Kathmandu valley still has so much to offer, that has been preserved from its early civilization. It's sad to see the late Roman civilization triggered so much prosperity in the west, while Greek, Egyptian, Indian, Chinese civilizations slowed their pace and faded away. But the world is transforming and it won't be any wonder if things made the opposite turn around over the matter of few centuries. ;)

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Yo world map bro le .............jati bela pani MAP ko thread shuru garchha yaar... haa haaa............nice things though..........LOL -------------------------- Hey rose!!!!!!!!!!!! Timi aajkal kata harayou????? ANi Nepal kahile jane ho??? december ta aaisakyo....u must be all EXCITED to be backhome after so many years, hoina ra????? Nepal ma kati baschhau? ani farkera aauda yo MORO -------amazing---------lai k koseli liyara aauchhu ni???????????? --------amazing-------------------

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map source: http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/