Is There Any Paranormal/Supernatural Phenomenon That Exists Today That One Can Experience?
Valid examples:
- A haunted house that science has been unable to explain
- Milk coming out of a hindu idol god that science has been unable to explain
Invalid examples:
- Virgin birth of Jesus christ. We can not experience/validate this today
- A haunted house used to exist in London in early eighteenth century. We can not experience validate today
If there aren't any then that would make the argument (that paranormal/supernatural experiences are personal and not real) even more stronger.
4) Moses parting of the red sea
5) Jesus turning blood into wine
!)I have seen a ufo a few times. You just need to go out and look at the sky sometimes. One was in kathmandu itself.
2)Once, parents and self was watching tv in house when suddenly there was a loud bang on the door. The gate was locked. There was no stone. We all heard it and i opened the door. It was around 5pm. There was noone. Later around 7pm got call from another place a cousin brother had died at 5pm.
3)Love is also not scientifically verifiable but it does not mean it does not exist. Because if they are then it becomes Science. I think in order to believe in such things, you have to leave Science behind. The most important factor i think is to experience it yourself because until and unless you do, it will simply not make any sense.
freedom2012,
You've seen UFO a few times? How many times? Not just 1 time but multiple times? That too in Nepal? LOL.
Personal experience is not reality. Reality is when it's true all the time for everybody. For example, no matter who you are (Dalai Lama or Sathya Sai Baba or Tom Dick and Harry), gravity will pull you down to earth. Another example is no matter which religion you follow, the sun will rise in the east and set in the west. This is reality. Whereas, personal experience is not. You maybe experience presence of an angel in the room but the video camera in the room didn't capture any such thing. You may find a house haunted but somebody else can get a good night's sleep in the house.
So, there you go. Personal experience is not reality.
these folks are talking about ghost and scared of it,
the fact these guys are not understanding is that we are ourselves ghosts(spirits) in bodies.
Regarding those noises or voices, there is one entire valley full of people hearing these noises, guess what it's electromagnetic surveillance.(check the video below)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmE4oTXYmf4&feature=share
It was on the news last month, and they're calling it electronic harrassment.
power_ranger, did you read my very post above? Virgin in this age can be mother through artifical insemination. Why are you opposing that it's not true? I'm not religious and not backing christianity in any form but I highly perceive it as some sort of historical incident that took place at that period of time. You go back to that time, and show them you are flying on a plane, you'll be worshipped as GOD. Going back and forth to time,in this linear time is not hard, it's just that we don't have that technology yet. How about who might have? sounds crazy right? but hey let the imagination play :D
in china, they did experiment on teleportation, it succeeded, no media covered it except few science forums. Why? dumb ppl don't read those, they read news on tabs/others affairs/kills/murders/rape only. Have you ever seen people marching/rioting to send men to mars? or to send them to moon? No.. what am trying to prove is science communities are now agreeing time travel is very much possible. It's just that lot of we dumbs don't know about it.
and gravity is not same in all part of the world, our earths mass is not spread proportionately and hence, at some place you find yourself gaining weight, whereas at some place you find it opposite. Let me give you another perspective, you thought earth is round? This is how earth looks like, pear/potato shaped.
Do you believe, in certain vortex, there is no gravity, right here on earth.. ?? You've to, it's time to re-update our old science knowledge throughout the education system, which is not being done in timely manner.
Nice thread anyway, some food for thought :D
Power Ranger,
yes i saw UFO in kathmandu once. And twice in USA. So 3 times as of now. This is as real as the fact that i had Macdonalds for lunch just now. Or are you going to decide what i had for my lunch?.
Many people have seen UFOs and experienced paranormal, not until you see and experience them, you will always think that people who see UFOs are stupid and mistake birds and planes as UFOs. So how else can one prove?.
You are the type of person who thinks he is very smart by asking the question "Who created God?" to Theists when the fact is that Theists do not believe in a created God.
freedom2012,
Tell us more about your 3 UFO visits. This is quite a coincidence that 1 guy from Nepal will have not 1, not 2 but 3 UFO visits. Tell us more :
What shape size were the flying objects. What about the aliens? Were u abducted? Did they pass you any message ?
Why is your experience any different than a person experiencing ghost when s/he is alone?
If there was a camera, would it have captured the UFOs? Were you alone? Did anybody else see the UFOs?
Power Ranger,
UFOs simply means unidentified flying object. It might not necessarily mean aliens. My encounter was of the first kind. The kathmandu one was a metallic object. It was in 1990. I did not have any video camera, and anyways, one does not walk around with a video camera hanging around your neck all the time. When i think of it now, it might have been perhaps a spy plane from China or India?. But i have researched it and did not find any such design or shape. There was a stranger there a country bumpkin though who saw it with me.
The USA ones were circular shaped and moving fast in one direction. I saw 2 one after the other in about 10 minutes. The first one was too fast and disappeared into the clouds, the second one...i did go to my room to get the camera, but i was too late.
In my teens, i was like you a skeptic. But when you experience it then you realise there is really more to it than meets the eye.
If you google the greatest inventors and scientists of the world, you will get like maybe 30, without whom modern life would not have been possible. The population of the world in billions yet it is only a few who changed this world. From this we realise that even though we all have the same brain, the ability to tap into knowledge out there and discover it is very rare. So, it is similary not necessary for everyone to be able to see and experience God for God to exist. So Jesus is a possibility if you see it from that perspective. And i am not a christian saying this.
freedom2012,
Your UFO experience is not verifiable. There is no way for us to experience it. Your story is same as other personal experiences that can not be verified.
I was looking for something that I can experience today.
I guess you can claim anything that can not be verified.
Power Ranger,
when a tree falls in the forest and there is noone to hear it, does it make a sound?
Check this out. Isn't this phenemenon a supernatural too?
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130102.html
Bittertruth you can never go back in Time. It violates the laws of Physics. It's called the grandfather paradox or butterfly effect. Time travel (in reality) is very different than what most people think it is.
I don't believe that humans in the past were advanced. Of course they had good imagination based on what they saw and percieved at that time (Like they saw birds and thought of aeroplanes etc). Hell it was somewhere in 18th century when they found out what's was fire. Before that they thought it was one of the elements. So you are right in the sense that anything extraordinary (Like a comet or something would be percieved as something devine during ancient times)
I agree that science is constantly evolving and for most practical purposes, the earth is round (If you look from space it is round). It's how and where you present the argument.
Anyways going back to the topic, I don't know if there's supernatural. There could be since it's can't be disproved. But it's also possible that the mind is playing games on you. Whatever you choose to believe. But there's always an explanation to something and striving to find them is what makes humans intelligent. If you do hear a ghost, don't just run away but try to find if that's really a ghost or a racoon.
* that's geomapped earth and if ocean is stripped off, that's how earth really looks like. Things are not really what it looks like.
* I don't know who you are, when scientists and engineers are now recognizing time travel as possibility. This news was surfaced last month and yes, new experiment show time travel is possible, we don't know yet how. 115 years ago, they laughed at when steam engine/train was said to ferry passengers, 200 years ago, they thought anyone crazy imagining man going to moon or another planet, 400 years ago, they thought anyone thinking that earth is round and not the center of universe be executed to death and here in the present context YEAR 2012 genuises are recognizing time travel as not something far from reality and few ignorants are being keyboard ninja throwing age old logics.
one question:::
*do you really think human evolved from monkeys? If yes, EOD.
I just searched that news, here is the link , do research on those people working on it before throwing lame comments. here is the link http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/grandview/news/2012/11/07/is-time-travel-possible-local-engineer-says-yes.html
Time travel is very much possible if there is parallel reality. Most scientists have agreed on the possibility of the existence of parallel universe. Knowing things way before it happens is also a sort of time travel effect, your subconscious dwell in parallel universe at least to say for some people who precisely averted next day dire consequences following their last night's dream , a state when your inner conscious wakes up and your physicality turns off. For many it's nothing but mere daily routine of going to bed and waking up, for some it's dwelling in parallel timeline and seeing things way before it's happening. This is sort of travel travel effect for me.
Now, physically going through the rip/vortex in the fabric of space and time.. and entering to different point of this linear time, that's something I'm personally dreaming to get materialized, and scientists are giving 'GREEN UPs' for its possibility.
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when a tree falls in the forest and there is noone to hear it, does it make a sound?
Yes. Put a sound recorder in the forest. It will record the sound when a tree falls. Reality is true whether you are in the forest or not.
On the other hand, a video camera will not capture the ghost that someone said was in the room. Ghost is personal experience.
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That Sir is a philosophical/scientific question that has become a rhetoric these days. You might wanna google it to see the various discussions about it.
"Reality is True" is something like a blunder mistake.
Have you really done a research about the paranormal?. There are many such videos of ghosts and UFOs. Not all have been proved fake. You can check many on youtube or google for such information.
Bittertruth,
I never said you can't time travel. I just said that you cannot travel BACK in time because of laws of physics as it stands now. Maybe in 500 years our physics may change and prove otherwise.
And about me, I am someone who has a lot of passion for physics. So I made the correction.
And I'm glad you are reading up on physics as well. It's such a noble subject.
couldn't agree more, physics is what's gonna make us interstellar one day, will be the answer to all superstition
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